The exchanges we just had, including Mr. Oliphant's comments and the question I asked earlier, reflect our confusion over the difference between the protection of the system, which is a legitimate concern of the federal government, and the protection of the consumer, which is something everyone recognizes as a necessary measure, but which, constitutionally speaking, comes under the jurisdiction of Quebec and the other provinces. I think this adds to the confusion. Here we have a bill whose first clause clearly forbids the practice of a profession in order to protect the consumer, but that consideration happens to fall completely under Quebec's and provincial jurisdiction. That is why the government and its representatives do not want to clearly state that this is the bill's objective.
I would like to get back to the figures you provided regarding members. You said that you have some 1,700 or 1,800 members. In your presentation, you say that, since 2004, you have shut out 800 members—unless I am mistaken—that you have disciplined 225 members and that there are 400 open investigations. Clearly, I am not familiar with all the professional orders—I am a member of the Ordre des ingénieurs du Québec—but it seems to me that your exclusion and investigation numbers are extremely high.
Doesn't the fact that you had to shut out 400 of your 1,600 members point to a problem in the selection process? You have shut out a quarter of your members since 2004.