Evidence of meeting #55 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-43.
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Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
Thank you.
I have listened very carefully to both speakers, and I did not hear that comment whatsoever.
I would like to have that removed from the record, because I think that's unfair, unjust, to say something that was not said.
4:20 p.m.
Immigration and Refugee Lawyer, As an Individual
[Inaudible—Editor]...slanderous.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
I would rather the two of you not get into a debate. Ms. Freeman has asked you a question for further recommendations. If you have any, we would appreciate hearing them.
4:20 p.m.
NDP
Jinny Sims NDP Newton—North Delta, BC
Stop the clock again.
Ms. Sims.
I just want to say that if we're going to say to one speaker that you cannot make a comment on what another speaker has said, then that rule should have been brought to light a lot sooner.
You know, it's unfair to say to one speaker that they may not comment on what they have heard—their own interpretation—when the other speaker has been very vocal in putting stuff out.
4:20 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
You're absolutely right in what you just said, but I would rather....
Our time is slowly disappearing, and the committee would be interested in hearing what the recommendations are....
Oh, I'm sorry. Mr. Menagakis had a point of order.
Ms. James was first? Okay.
4:20 p.m.
Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
While we don't disagree with Ms. Sims that you can comment on another witness's testimony, you just have to make sure that you comment correctly, and not misquote someone—
4:20 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
It's not for me to say who's telling the truth and who isn't telling the truth. Ms. Sims is correct that comments can be made. I'm just trying to get to....
This lady has some recommendations, and I think we'd be interested in hearing them.
Mr. Menegakis has a point of order—
4:20 p.m.
Conservative
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Conservative
Roxanne James Conservative Scarborough Centre, ON
Yes. Perhaps this is a point of clarification.
To say that another witness said something, more or less putting quotations around it, is incorrect, and it should not be allowed to be on the record if that is in fact not what was said.
4:20 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative David Tilson
I will repeat: I have no intention of saying who said what and who didn't say what. My job is to keep this meeting rolling, and I intend to do so.
Mr. Menegakis.
4:20 p.m.
Conservative
Costas Menegakis Conservative Richmond Hill, ON
Well, in the same vein, Mr. Chair, I think the point of order initially was that there should be a correction of an inaccuracy, of a fabrication, that was said here. That was the point. It was not whether one witness can comment on what another witness said. It was that one witness here was commenting on something that the other witness did not say.
I just wanted to get that point across.
4:20 p.m.
Conservative
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Conservative
John Weston Conservative West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC
I was listening very closely, and what I heard Ms. Taub say wasn't that every person who came over after the Holocaust was free of criminal activity. She didn't make that blanket statement.
I think that's the only thing we need to fix.
Perhaps if Ms. Sytcheva would retract that comment, we'd all be in a happier state.
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Conservative
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Liberal
Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
I understand what my colleagues are saying, and their reaction to this. However, I haven't heard a point of order. I think it's important to go on with the meeting.