Citizenship and Immigration Committee on June 11th, 2013

[John Weston, Conservative, West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast—Sea to Sky Country, BC]

Or offended.

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

Or offended. Thank you, lawyer. I appreciate your assistance.

That's my ruling on the point of privilege.

I do want to say to Ms. Sitsabaiesan, as well as everybody else, that if there is a time anybody in this room feels that intimidation or bullying, please bring it to the chair's attention, and the chair will do their very best to ensure it ceases. But unless it's brought to the chair's attention, unless it's very obvious....

I know we had a lot of excitement back there for a while, and I would urge everybody, let's just deal with the content. Let's let Madame Groguhé speak. But I do have other people who have their hands up for different things.

Mr. Opitz was first.

[Ted Opitz, Conservative, Etobicoke Centre, ON]

No, it's Ms. James.

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

I only go with the list.

[Ted Opitz, Conservative, Etobicoke Centre, ON]

I’ve already spoken.

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

We'll go to Ms. James and then we'll come back to you, Mr. Weston.

[Roxanne James, Conservative, Scarborough Centre, ON]

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I hope you afford me the same length of time to talk about this point of privilege, and your comments, as you have afforded the NDP and of course yourself as the chair.

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

Is yours a point of order or of privilege?

[Roxanne James, Conservative, Scarborough Centre, ON]

It is a point of order on what I just heard on the point of privilege. I believe I have—please don't make that face at me.

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

I'm just trying to see—

[Roxanne James, Conservative, Scarborough Centre, ON]

When we're talking about being bullied—

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

—if I can have a point of order on—

[Roxanne James, Conservative, Scarborough Centre, ON]

—I hope that you respect me as a member of this committee—

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

Okay. Let's see—

[Roxanne James, Conservative, Scarborough Centre, ON]

—and not pull faces at me when I'm trying to get my point out, please, Madam Chair.

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

It was puzzlement, because I'm trying to think things through. It was not any judgment on what you're saying. I'm going to seek some guidance from the clerks, because this area is new to me, when we have a point of order on a privilege.

[Roxanne James, Conservative, Scarborough Centre, ON]

I have a point of order, period.

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

When you—

[Roxanne James, Conservative, Scarborough Centre, ON]

Does that help you out?

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

I heard you say that your point of order was on the previous privilege—

[Roxanne James, Conservative, Scarborough Centre, ON]

I raised my point of order while she was speaking about her point of privilege.

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

But it's not on the content of her privilege.

[Roxanne James, Conservative, Scarborough Centre, ON]

I would like to make the point of order. Please let me state it.

[The Vice-Chair (Ms. Jinny Jogindera Sims), NDP, Jinny Sims]

Okay, let's hear your point of order.

[Roxanne James, Conservative, Scarborough Centre, ON]

Yes. Thank you.

First of all, I would like to make a point of order on the fact that I am the lone woman on this committee, and not once have I ever felt that I have been treated inequitably.

I have an opportunity to state this as a point of order.