Evidence of meeting #39 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was need.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Denise Amyot  President and Chief Executive Officer, Colleges and Institutes Canada
Nooralhooda Hussein  Project Coordinator, London and Middlesex Local Immigration Partnership
Mohamed Al-Adeimi  Coordinator, Newcomer Settlement Services, South London Neighbourhood Resource Centre

8:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

This is the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration, and today we are studying the topic of promoting economic prosperity through settlement services.

We have three sets of guests, although I see four name tags, but that'll all come clear eventually.

We have from Colleges and Institutes Canada, Denise Amyot, president and chief executive officer; and Cynthia Murphy, director of the Canadian immigrant integration program.

We have a representative from the London and Middlesex Local Immigration Partnership, Ms. Nooralhooda Hussein, who is project coordinator.

From the South London Neighbourhood Resource Centre, we have Mohamed Al-Adeimi, coordinator of newcomer settlement services.

Mr. McCallum.

8:45 a.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

Mr. Chair, I would like to bring to the attention of the committee a document that I received, which has a bearing on this study. It's not a committee document, so it is not protected by privilege, but the document appears to be a Conservative document which refers to the risk of this study in terms of “showcasing to our base that we are spending almost a billion dollars a year on settlement”. It also predetermines, it would appear, the conclusions to this study before we hear the witnesses.

I'd like to submit this document to the clerk for translation and distribution, but if there is unanimous consent, I could distribute it in English only right now.

8:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I have no idea. I've never heard of or seen such a document, Mr. McCallum. Personally, I haven't seen such a document.

8:45 a.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

No, I'm not suggesting that you have. That's why I'm offering to distribute it, so that you can see it.

8:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Is there unanimous consent on this?

8:45 a.m.

Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Richmond Hill, ON

No.

8:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

There doesn't appear to be unanimous consent. I would suggest, Mr. McCallum, that you give it to the clerk for translation and then we'll talk about it another time.

8:45 a.m.

Liberal

John McCallum Liberal Markham—Unionville, ON

That's a good idea.

8:45 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Ms. Amyot or Ms. Murphy, I don't know which one of you is going to be addressing us, but you will have up to eight minutes to make a presentation. Then we'll go to the other witnesses, and then there'll be questions from the committee.

Ms. Amyot

8:45 a.m.

Denise Amyot President and Chief Executive Officer, Colleges and Institutes Canada

Mr. Chair, good morning and thank you for the opportunity to speak to you today.

As you know, we all have a role to play in growing Canada's economy and contributing to our society, whether we are new immigrants, newcomers, or people whose families have been here for many generations, like mine, who has been here for 400 years.

Good morning to all of the members of the committee.

We are here today because we all know the importance of integrating immigrants into our society. It is not just a “nice to have” but a must for Canada.

As the president of Colleges and Institutes Canada, Canada's largest national association of Canadian colleges and institutes, and the only one with campuses from coast to coast to coast, I have the privilege of seeing first-hand the amazing work that many of our 135 member institutions do to support immigration integration at 1,000 campuses across the country. From my many conversations with our members, I'm going to share with you three key areas in which I believe Canada should invest.

First, we have to develop a portrait of labour market information, both national and local, of pre-arrival settlement services for immigrants, and permanent funding for labour market bridging programs is needed.

8:45 a.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Colleges and Institutes Canada

Denise Amyot

Let me tell you why. It's a bit like a sandwich, if you may allow me to use this comparison.

We'll pretend the first slice of bread represents labour market information. It's the foundation. If potential immigrants are going to be scored against their ability to fill a need in the Canadian economy, then we need to have an accurate picture of the current, and more importantly, future labour market need. Otherwise, how do we know we are recruiting the right people for the right opportunities?

Then we need our sandwich filling: a comprehensive set of pre-arrival settlement services that allow immigrants to access the information and the support they need to prepare for labour market access before they arrive in the country.

Finally, we need to finish our sandwich by making sure that when immigrants arrive in Canada, they can access bridging programs that provide appropriate training and support to further accelerate their integration into the Canadian labour force.

Let me focus on labour market information. Many immigrants come to Canada with and because they have skills that are needed within the Canadian context. But many do not have an accurate national portrait of today's labour market needs, nor do we have predictive labour market information to support decisions on the education and training needed. The need for accurate labour market information is a major preoccupation for the 37 members of our industry college coalition, a group of industry leaders who have joined together with our association to address areas of shared concern like labour market information. As a result, we're asking the Government of Canada, through Employment and Social Development Canada and in partnership with Statistics Canada, to improve labour market information, both on the supply and demand sides.

The second part of the sandwich you remember is the filling. This means giving prospective immigrants a head start before they arrive in Canada through pre-arrival settlement services. Our association, Colleges and Institutes Canada, has been administering the Canadian immigrant integration program since 2007, funded by the Government of Canada. CIIP is a groundbreaking program, which arms prospective immigrants with the right information tools and Canadian contacts before they leave home.

As a result of this intervention, newcomers are far better equipped to find work that reflects their skills and education, rather than settling for survival jobs, as is often the case. I have personally visited one of our CIIP offices in India, and I can tell you that the program is making a huge difference in the lives of newcomers. Through these services, clients begin to realize all of the pre-arrival steps they can take to maximize their employment success in Canada, whether it is contact with regulatory bodies to kick-start their licensure process; contact with colleges for educational upgrading and bridging programs; participating in pre-arrival initiatives, such as online workshops, occupation-specific webinars, exam invigilations, mentorships and internship preparation; registration with employment support organizations; or even contacting immigrant-serving organizations for settlement support. After participating in CIIP services, 96% of clients say they are committed to taking pre-arrival action.

What does it look like? In fact, it's a free service offered in person and online, in both English and French. Very few countries in the world offer something like that. First, clients participate in a big group orientation session that focuses on exploring job prospects. Newcomers are not only better informed, but they know where their occupation is in demand, thus improving job readiness by identifying challenges and risk-mitigation strategies, learning about Canadian job search strategies, and strengthening job retention through greater awareness of culture shock, legal rights, and workplace norms.

Second, they participate in a one-on-one planning session, which results in a comprehensive action plan, with employment and settlement steps to be taken pre- and post-arrival in Canada.

8:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

You have one minute left, Ms. Amyot.

8:55 a.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Colleges and Institutes Canada

Denise Amyot

Okay. Maybe I'll tell you about the results.

CIIP has served around 30,000 prospective immigrants. Of those, 47% were employed within three months of arrival in Canada, with 63% of them working in their fields. We're very grateful to the Government of Canada for renewing CIIP for two additional years. Instead of having the program in three main countries, when we went from three to 25, it will now be worldwide service delivery.

I do have information on the two other parts of the sandwich. I would be pleased to convey them to you later on.

Thank you.

8:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Thank you for your presentation, Ms. Amyot.

The second presenter is Ms. Hussein from the London and Middlesex Local Immigration Partnership.

Welcome to the committee. You have up to eight minutes.

8:55 a.m.

Nooralhooda Hussein Project Coordinator, London and Middlesex Local Immigration Partnership

Thank you very much for the opportunity.

My name is Nooralhooda Hussein, but I usually go by Huda. I have always gone by the name Huda, just to make it easier.

I am here today to represent the London and Middlesex Local Immigration Partnership, which is really funded by the government through Citizenship and Immigration Canada. We have been funded since 2009 to become a body of planning for the successful integration of immigrants. I'll just give you some of the background of what we do, some of the demographics in London and Middlesex, and what our goal is in trying to support the economic prosperity of Canadians.

As I said, we have been funded by Citizenship and Immigration Canada since 2009. We are a community collaborative initiative that supports and strengthens initiative by establishing stronger linkages between the sectors. We also support the role of settlement services. We are one of 35 LIPs, again funded by CIC, throughout Ontario and the model has now been taken outside Ontario to Alberta, B.C., Newfoundland, and Nova Scotia.

One of our co-chairs is the City of London. It is very important to have the local government involved in the project itself. That gives us credibility; that gives us neutrality; that gives us the success that we are seeing in London and Middlesex.

Our purpose is a collaborative framework to facilitate the successful integration by looking at the issues together with the community, and to build stronger and healthier communities.

The statistics show that one in five Londoners is or has been an immigrant to Canada. As per Statistics Canada, this percentage will grow given the aging population and declining birth rates. The need to assist immigrants in a successful integration is of utmost importance. Our country receives about 250,000 immigrants every year, so the services are still needed.

What's our role in economic prosperity? We play an important role in creating the infrastructure to support the economic prosperity of the immigrants.

How do we do this? We consult and connect with system partners and stakeholders to identify gaps and strategies in order to facilitate the successful integration of immigrants. We support better coordination of services across multiple sectors and within mainstream organizations. We find local solutions to overcome issues that impede the successful integration of immigrants. We create awareness among stakeholders and immigrants. We share information on job opportunities and emerging issues with newcomers and ethnic communities.

I'll give an example of what we do at the settlement sub-council. We have six sub-councils. One of the sub-councils is the settlement sub-council. We realize that when immigrants come, they are given the information in the first three months and they are overwhelmed. We have tried to coordinate with the LINC program, the language instruction program for newcomers, the work information on different issues as per the need of immigrants. If their need is on health issues, we coordinate with the health unit to come and talk about health issues and so forth.

This has become a very successful body, which is called the family settlement collaborative. Information is power and we believe that if information is given at the right time and when needed, people will become successful.

We also provide the framework to facilitate collaboration to develop community-based strategy plans. We recognize that changes can be made through engaging all sectors, which includes the three levels of government; therefore, we engage them for better outcomes for immigrants. We initiate discussions on systemic changes. We do know that systemic changes take time—it's like moving big ships—so we try to change slowly.

For example, we have realized that classroom demographics have changed. We no longer have one particular ethnic group; we have different ethnic groups, different cultures, different languages.

We have collaborated with the faculty of education at London's Western University. We have also developed a position paper that we have submitted to the education ministry and the ministry of universities and colleges.

We're trying to underline for the teachers who are coming to teach the children that the classroom demographics have changed. What can we do as a community to help the teachers be equipped with the information they need in the new classroom?

For example, we have found that housing challenges are facing the immigrants. What can we do as a community? We partnered with the City of London to see how we can engage the two stakeholders, the landlords and the tenants, at the same time so that everyone understands the issues and they can work together.

These are small systemic changes that we at the London and Middlesex Local Immigration Partnership have tried to move on.

Our partners are many. We do have the three levels of government on the council. We also have the big systems, such as the institutions, the school boards, the health unit, and the hospitals.

In London we have a number of projects that have been successful in the integration of immigrants. For example, my colleague mentioned the CIIP through Skills International. We do that program. It is very important that we have some programs inside and outside to prepare the immigrants.

In conclusion, I would like to say that LMLIP is an indirect settlement service, and it has a role to play in creating the economic prosperity of the immigrants. We are grateful to have had the funding so far from CIC, and continued funding will strengthen our building capacity and our support to the settlement services.

We are driven mostly by 100-plus volunteers. We believe that the London and Middlesex communities are working differently, with a focus on successful integration of the immigrants in our midst. Partnerships have been established to maximize resources.

We are hopeful that we'll continue to receive the necessary funds to enable our community to plan and find strategic ways to support the economic prosperity of the immigrants. We do understand that successful settlement services lead to retention and to economic prosperity. It's important to consider the holistic settlement needs of individuals, which include families.

Thank you for your time.

9 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Thank you for your presentation, Ms. Hussein.

Finally we have, from the South London Neighbourhood Resource Centre, Mr. Al-Adeimi. Welcome to the committee, sir.

February 26th, 2015 / 9 a.m.

Mohamed Al-Adeimi Coordinator, Newcomer Settlement Services, South London Neighbourhood Resource Centre

Thank you, Mr. Chair and committee members.

My name is Mohamed Al-Adeimi, and on a daily basis I coordinate the settlement services at the South London Neighbourhood Resource Centre.

At the same time, with regard to the issues of immigrants and the complexity of serving immigrants, and as my colleague Nooralhooda has said, I also chair the settlement sub-council of the London and Middlesex Local Immigration Partnership. We coordinate that very well thanks to the opportunity which is made available to us through the funding of Citizenship and Immigration. As we get into the issues, we have to work directly with other organizations. I'm also a member of the advisory committee for the RBC Centre for At-Risk Children and Families at the London Health Sciences Centre.

I'm also a member of a pilot project in London on forming family centres serving all residents of London in their neighbourhoods. This project is happening through the city as a pilot.

London is always looked upon as a city where you go if you want to test any object. As the story goes, when McDonald's wanted to bring their restaurant here, they started in London, Ontario. We often see pilot projects started in London. If they are successful there, they could be successful anywhere.

I also serve as a member of the collaborative service teams of these different family centres.

All that is to say it is very important to look at the issues of immigrants from the holistic point of view of the needs of immigrants, which are very complex, as well as the time of the information.

I have a PowerPoint presentation, but I'll try to summarize it because it has not been translated and therefore, I cannot show it.

I will start talking about who we are and then I will talk a little bit about implementing the Citizenship and Immigration programs and the accountability of settlement services. Then I'll conclude by giving a few notes.

The South London Neighbourhood Resource Centre is the biggest centre in the City of London. It has been there for 30 years, and has been serving immigrants as well as residents. Our mission is to operate as a family, child, and youth community enrichment centre. The centre supports and fosters the development of community-based and community-driven projects that nurture and enhance a healthy quality of life for residents of London.

From the very beginning, when the community started settling in London, and throughout the years, they looked at having a place where all their children, families, and everyone could be.

In 2007, we were recognized as one of the settlement agencies by Citizenship and Immigration Canada. What a wonderful place to integrate newcomers into the community, and not by building a silo kind of a centre, separate from settlement agencies. What we provide at the centre is a series of initiatives for engaging residents in their community from age zero until they're seniors.

In terms of the majority, as things have changed, as the demography of the city of London has changed, in our area especially the percentage of newcomers is the highest when compared with other parts of the city and with many medium-sized cities in Ontario as well.

We have a youth council that engages in, plans, and directs their activities into the areas and issues that they are interested in. We integrate newcomer youth within the youth centre. As well, we have the early education centre that supports families who have children below the age of six. Health Canada is a major funder in this project. We coordinate this project through the City of London. As well, we have programs and services for adults and seniors. The majority of the adults and seniors are immigrants as well.

Being a community centre that's driven based on the needs of immigrants, we have a community development approach to engage volunteers. Many individuals on a daily basis support the residents as volunteers. As well, knowing that the need is there for emergency services, we do also have other emergency services. Over 85 programs and services are being put under one roof in order to provide holistic and comprehensive settlement services for newcomers. This is one of the best practices we have shared across the board in Ontario. It's wonderful to have a place for all members of the family, irrespective of whether they have successfully secured a job or not. We see newcomers who have secured a job and who are not settled. They are the ones who are in a very bad situation and won't be integrated easily into the community.

Through our history of 30 years of collaboration and partnership with the community, we do see that it's not enough that a person gets a job. It's important that a person feels that his children are safe, that his family gets the support they need, that they have a place where they can spend their recreational time, a place where they can feel at home, a place that makes them think, “This is my community. I belong here. I am part of it.”

This is the way we deliver our best practices in services at the South London Neighbourhood Resource Centre.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Perhaps you could wind up, sir.

9:10 a.m.

Coordinator, Newcomer Settlement Services, South London Neighbourhood Resource Centre

Mohamed Al-Adeimi

The services we provide through Citizenship and Immigration Canada are now generally through the immigration contribution agreement reporting environment. That is another very important tool we have that CIC has put together. It covers so many areas. Whenever there is a contact between a newcomer and a settlement worker, there is an assessment of the needs of the individual related to trying to know what their opinion is or whether they know much about life in Canada, their community, the government, and working in Canada, and whether they know the education system.

All of their needs are looked at, and accordingly, they are provided with accurate information and referral. This is done by sharing settlement plans with the newcomers and—

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

Thank you, sir.

9:10 a.m.

Coordinator, Newcomer Settlement Services, South London Neighbourhood Resource Centre

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Tilson

I'm sorry. I'm directed by the committee to set a time, and I have to move on to the next stage of the committee, which is a dialogue between members of the committee and you.

We will start off with Mr. Menegakis.

9:10 a.m.

Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Richmond Hill, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

To our witnesses, thank you for appearing before us today and for your testimony. It's very important for us to hear from you as we embark on this very important study. As you know, our government has tripled settlement funding from under $200 million per year to up to $600 million now, not including an additional some $55 million for refugee resettlement. It's important for us to meet with you, our partners out in the field, to get feedback from you on what you see is working right and what you see perhaps needs improvement.

I'll start today by asking you a question, Madam Amyot, if I may, with regard to your efforts at Colleges and Institutes Canada. I know that you work closely with CIC. Can you tell us how your relationship is working with the CIC and how that is assisting and helping you in reaching your clients?

9:10 a.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Colleges and Institutes Canada

Denise Amyot

We meet on a regular basis, and whenever there is an issue such as a new policy or new regulations that are being put in place, we make sure that we ask our members what the impact of it could or will be. We have very good relationships and we're very proud of that.

If I may, I will flag a new issue that just emerged last Thursday, as this is a good opportunity. We just found out that there are new fees right now associated with international mobility programs. Some of our members contacted us immediately and said it would create an issue for students to find an internship for the summer, those who are international co-op students or on youth exchange programs, because the students will be asked to pay $150 and the employers will be asked to pay $230. We believe that these fees may deter both students and employers from students' having the chance to work for the summer or for a semester in Canada.

We would appreciate whatever you could do to alleviate this or to make an exception for universities, as you rightly did recently with the temporary foreign worker program. If there could be an exception made for those students and for the employers who would accept those students, it would be much appreciated. This is something we contacted CIC about immediately this week, and we're waiting to hear from them, but whatever help you as members of Parliament could provide to us would be much appreciated.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Richmond Hill, ON

Thank you.

Obviously this will dovetail into the students. I read on your website that your organization leads creative marketing campaigns and establishes programs and tools that make it easier for colleges to recruit more international students and for students to obtain their student visas on time. That's a very important and key factor. Obviously, we need to get the students here, and expediting the visa process is always a priority of ours.

Our government knows that international students are essentially contributing to economic jobs and growth in Canada. There's a huge impact on the economy in having the volume of international students that we have here. In fact, our government welcomed a record number of international students last year.

Can you expand on how your organization works with international students?