I think we're going to end there. I'm going to suspend the meeting for a moment. Mr. Whalen will begin the next round with a few minutes to finish his five minutes, then Ms. Kwan will follow, and then we'll go back to the start. This gives the minister a chance to go to prepare for question period.
We'll suspend for two minutes, again with our thanks for your appearance, and the officials will continue until about five minutes to two o'clock. Thank you.