On one last point of business, I'd just like to note that we will be having at least two meetings prior to August 3. Those meetings will include a request to ministers to attend, as well as officials, as is our case, and witnesses. I'm going to ask that lists of witnesses be submitted to the clerk no later than 5 p.m. on Wednesday of this week so that we can continue as expeditiously as possible with the committee's desire to have two meetings.
Ms. Kwan.