Excellent. Thank you very much.
As a fellow Pictou County native and StFX graduate, Ms. MacLeod, congratulations on your appointment. It's a pleasure to see you here today.
One of the things I want to touch on is as much a plea as it is a question. You've described, I think, in an innocent way the use of the term “illegals” as simply being semantics.
The fact is that, as Ms. Kwan pointed out, it is a matter of law, but it's also very important to recognize that words very much do matter. When we refer to people as illegals or queue jumpers, when we talk about there being a crisis when the evidence we hear is actually that there is a well-managed response to this challenge, it creates a second class of human being who's living within our borders today. That is not something I'm okay with.
One of the things we have to be very careful about is the warning we received from the representative from the UN today, who said that this kind of language could be populist rhetoric and it can dehumanize asylum seekers. I don't think that you use this language maliciously. As I said, I think it's innocently held—