Mr. Chairman, I would like to congratulate Mr. Alio and Mr. Cohen, in particular, for the comments about the contributions that new refugees make to this country.
I can tell you that in my riding, which is a semi-rural, semi-urban community, there's a company that makes auto parts. It has told me that it is having trouble finding Canadians to work on the lines. It will pay to train new Canadians to come and work on these lines because it can't get Canadians to work on these lines. They are well-paid jobs; Canadians just don't want them.
Your observations are good about the contributions that new Canadians make to this country economically and culturally.
One of the issues that I look at, however, is that there are different types of refugees. I would like you to philosophize a little bit about this. There are well-educated, wealthy people who come to this country for different reasons. There's another group of people who aren't. They come to this country because things back home are terrible because of war, the way they have been treated, poverty, climate issues, all kinds of things, and they are in desperate shape.
We have to spend a fair bit of money to provide language training, housing and social services. It is the second group I'm talking about. I have no idea what the percentage is between those two groups.
We had the minister some time ago come forward with the levels plan as to what we should have in the future. I think he's talking about 350,000.
Is that a fair number? Should it be less? Should it be more? Knowing all the things our municipal, provincial and federal governments have to do, do you think there is a limit as to what we can sustain?