Evidence of meeting #141 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was newcomers.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

David Manicom  Assistant Deputy Minister, Settlement and Integration, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Ümit Kiziltan  Director General, Research and Evaluation, Department of Citizenship and Immigration
Matthew Cecchetto  Liaison Officer, Canadian Orientation Abroad, International Organization for Migration
Queenie Choo  Chief Executive Officer, S.U.C.C.E.S.S.
Jean-Guy Bigeau  President, Executive Director, Réseau de développement économique et d'employabilité Canada
Salma Zahid  Scarborough Centre, Lib.
Roukya Abdi-Aden  Administrator, National Cooperation, Réseau de développement économique et d'employabilité Canada
Ramez Ayoub  Thérèse-De Blainville, Lib.

4:30 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Settlement and Integration, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Randeep Sarai Liberal Surrey Centre, BC

—a lot of times they're misled about what to expect in Canada or about their financial obligations. I don't believe they're getting any pre-arrival settlement services and I was wondering if you would be broadening services. It's a two-part question.

4:30 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Settlement and Integration, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

David Manicom

On the first part, the uptake of pre-arrival services is still quite low. I think it's around 10%, but we'll get you information on that. Of course, sometimes it's because people are coming as a sponsored spouse. They don't feel they need it. Other people already have a job and so they access services as they need them.

In our program redesign, which we've made much more streamlined with more centralized intake at the front end, we certainly need to do a better job of making sure that all newcomers know about the services and have an easy pathway into the system.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Randeep Sarai Liberal Surrey Centre, BC

Currently how would they know?

4:30 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Settlement and Integration, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

David Manicom

Through websites and through—

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Randeep Sarai Liberal Surrey Centre, BC

Does it come on your acceptance letter? I apply for immigration, I got accepted into a program.

4:30 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Settlement and Integration, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Randeep Sarai Liberal Surrey Centre, BC

Does it say, here are some pre-arrival services you can call?

4:30 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Settlement and Integration, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

David Manicom

At the approval in principle stage, they get in writing information about the availability of these programs.

Your second question was....

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Randeep Sarai Liberal Surrey Centre, BC

In regard to students, there are international students....

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

I need to ask you to be very quick on this.

4:30 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Settlement and Integration, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

David Manicom

International students are not currently eligible for our settlement programming. At this time, we give it to permanent residents only, with a few small exceptions.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Thank you.

That will end our first panel. I suspect that we may ask for more information from you at some point with respect to the breadth of some of the services and the makeup of the programs, and some fundamental things that I think we may need to have as a basis. I'll just let you know that we may get back to you on that.

Ms. Kwan.

4:30 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

I just want to clarify something in my request for information. I don't know if I heard a firm affirmative from the officials undertaking to meet my request for the committee. I just want to confirm that will be the case.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Sure. We'll ask the clerk. I think we assume that it's always affirmative. We'll ask the clerk to follow up from the minutes to make sure that the department has all of the requests that we made so that you understand what we've asked for and can clarify.

January 30th, 2019 / 4:30 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Settlement and Integration, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

David Manicom

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and in concluding, there was a reference to difficulty with information about how we define our programs and what we spend on each. We do have very firm hard data on all of the services we provide, how many dollars we spend in each one and so forth and so on, which we could certainly provide to the committee.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

I think a little briefing package from the department would be helpful to the committee members to understand the breadth, the geographic and demographic makeup, anything that you have that you would enable the committee to understand the depth of that.

4:30 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, Settlement and Integration, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

David Manicom

We could provide, I would suggest, some of our off-the-shelf materials, and then if there are gaps, we can attempt to answer them.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Very good.

Mr. Maguire.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

I have a couple of quick questions, but I don't need to ask them now; I just need the answers. Could I table them with the clerk, and we'll have the officials respond to them?

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Sure. Give them to the clerk, and we'll get the answers to you.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Larry Maguire Conservative Brandon—Souris, MB

I'll get them emailed.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Thank you very much.

We're going to suspend for just a moment to change the panel. We have a video conference witness, as well as some in the room.

Thank you to the officials; we'll be in touch.

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Rob Oliphant

Thanks to our witnesses for joining us for the second hour. We're beginning our study on settlement services. In particular, this first panel is on pre-arrival services, which are part of that continuum of services.

We're going to begin with Mr. Cecchetto from the IOM. We're glad you're here.

4:35 p.m.

Matthew Cecchetto Liaison Officer, Canadian Orientation Abroad, International Organization for Migration

Thank you.