Yes, I think you're right. I think less legal aid funding will then drive people to other sources, and to the least expensive. I think that's difficult in all areas. Cost is kind of a double-edged sword, I think. In some ways, the high cost of legal services that many have written about is due to the cost of overtraining. We don't need, for example, a surgeon to pierce an ear. On the other hand, in terms of the cost of services, if there's no funding, then people will go to....
Affordability is a big part of the regulation of paralegals. Somehow, that's fallen off to the margins in Ontario. Affordability is a big part of it. I'm not speaking specifically to refugee and immigration lawyers themselves or to the costs of their services, but in a general sense.