Evidence of meeting #7 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-6.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Andrew Brouwer  Senior Counsel, Refugee Law, Legal Aid Ontario
Audrey Macklin  Professor, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto, As an Individual
Tamra Thomson  Director, Legislation and Law Reform, Canadian Bar Association
Christopher Veeman  Executive Member, National Immigration Law Section, Canadian Bar Association
James Bissett  Former Ambassador, As an Individual
Debbie Douglas  Executive Director, Ontario Council of Agencies Serving Immigrants (OCASI)
Ihsaan Gardee  Executive Director, National Council of Canadian Muslims

1 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Chair, as a point of clarification, when the chair decides to use his prerogative to ask question of the witnesses, how will that time be taken out of other rounds of questions that have been already appropriated in the routine motions?

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

It's not taken out of anyone's round of questioning.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Well, Mr. Chair, I would argue that it is. By your interrupting and asking questions, you are taking time away from other members of the committee. If you should like to use a spot from the Liberal Party, I think that would certainly be welcome.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

I used my discretion in a way that would not have interfered with anyone's round of questioning and I used my chair's prerogative to do so.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Chair, I formally challenge your decision on this ruling. I believe it's in violation of the routine motions and I'd like a recorded vote on that.

1 p.m.

Liberal

Randeep Sarai Liberal Surrey Centre, BC

Mr. Chair, I think that answers the question. She's formally challenging it. She can make her application to it. I think we continue with the questions, and you can do that afterwards. Thank you.

1 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Yes, and procedurally, Mr. Chair, I'm raising this as a motion.

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

This is not debatable, and I'll allow the clerk to take the vote.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 5; nays 4)

1 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

The decision is sustained. Thank you.

Mr. Chen, you may continue.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Mr. Chairman, the time has expired.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

A point of order, Mr. Chair. The time of this committee has expired.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

I would like to ask the members of the committee whether or not they would like to continue and finish with at least this round of questions.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Chair, on a point of order, I believe that for an extension of meeting, notice has to be given to the committee, and that, as such, the motion is out of order.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

The agenda says the meeting ends at one o'clock, Mr. Chairman.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

My advice is that is not correct.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

No, but the agenda said the meeting ends at one o'clock, and it's now after one o'clock. You can't just unilaterally deem that the—

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

The agenda is—

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

Mr. Chairman, a point of order. You can't just deem that the meeting continue on your own volition. This meeting expired five minutes ago.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Shaun Chen Liberal Scarborough North, ON

Mr. Chair, I move:

that the meeting be extended for 15 minutes.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

The agenda is a guiding document. There has not been a motion to adjourn.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Shaun Chen Liberal Scarborough North, ON

Mr. Chair, I just moved a motion to extend the meeting by 15 minutes.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Chair?

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Mr. Chen has the floor.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

A point of order, Mr. Chair. I would say on the motion—

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Ms. Rempel.