Evidence of meeting #7 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was c-6.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Andrew Brouwer  Senior Counsel, Refugee Law, Legal Aid Ontario
Audrey Macklin  Professor, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto, As an Individual
Tamra Thomson  Director, Legislation and Law Reform, Canadian Bar Association
Christopher Veeman  Executive Member, National Immigration Law Section, Canadian Bar Association
James Bissett  Former Ambassador, As an Individual
Debbie Douglas  Executive Director, Ontario Council of Agencies Serving Immigrants (OCASI)
Ihsaan Gardee  Executive Director, National Council of Canadian Muslims

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

—in the spirit of fairness, and to show your impartiality, if you are extending the committee meeting, I would say that we would allow an additional full round of questioning by each of the opposition parties.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Shaun Chen Liberal Scarborough North, ON

Mr. Chair, I'm moving a motion to extend the meeting by 15 minutes with a hard stop at 15 minutes past the hour.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

I would move to amend the motion to allow the extension of the meeting to include an extra full round of questioning for each of the parties represented at the table.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Just for clarification for the committee members, Mr. Chen had another three and a half minutes in his round. The second round has five slots, and there are four five-minute slots, so for 20 minutes, and one three-minute slot, for a total of 23 minutes.

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Sorry, can you clarify that, Mr. Chair?

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

The second round, which would follow the first round, has a total of 23 minutes according to the routine procedures that were adopted. So there are 23 minutes, plus Mr. Chen has another three and a half minutes, so approximately 26 and a half or 27 minutes.

Is that what you are requesting?

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

To be clear, I would just say that the CPC and the NDP would each like an additional round of questions if the meeting is to be extended.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Ms. Kwan.

1:05 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Thank you very much for this scintillating round of discussion.

I would suggest this. Given that the questions to the witnesses were interrupted with points of order, with the loss of that time perhaps what we can do, and I would move the amendment, is extend the meeting equal to the number of minutes that were lost in the round from the points of order discussion.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Shaun Chen Liberal Scarborough North, ON

Mr. Chair, I would withdraw my motion. Ms. Kwan's—

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Well, we have the motion before us.

1:05 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

I don't know exactly—

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

[Inaudible--Editor] and just to clarify what my subamendment was, I moved that in the notion of fairness, and to show impartiality, since the chair is unilaterally extending the committee at his prerogative, that the meeting be extended to include an additional round of question for each opposition party, as well as the government, of course.

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Just for clarification, there is no unilateral extension of the committee. There is a motion to extend by the chair. There is a motion before the committee.

Do we have the motion written out so that everyone is clear on the motion and the subamendments?

Just for clarification, the subamendment on the amendment, which was to allow a full extra round of questions, asks for an equal number of minutes lost during the point of order debate. So we would allow a full round, just for clarification.

I assume that's.... No?

There were approximately 10 minutes lost from when Ms. Rempel began her points of order, so the subamendment would request that we amend to allow for only 10 minutes, just for clarification on that subamendment.

1:10 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Right. Let me just find out what is actually on the floor right now.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

The original motion was to extend the meeting by 15 minutes.

1:10 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Correct.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

The amendment to the motion was for a full extra round of questions. The way I was understanding your subamendment was that it would add 10 minutes to the time that was lost when Ms. Rempel began her points of order.

1:10 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Correct. Now are we going to vote on my first amendment?

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

The subamendment.

1:10 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Okay. Thank you.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

Mr. Ehsassi, you're on the speakers list—

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

Ali Ehsassi Liberal Willowdale, ON

Mr. Chair—

1:10 p.m.

Conservative

David Tilson Conservative Dufferin—Caledon, ON

[Inaudible--Editor] until I understand what we're voting on, and it appears we're not going to vote on it.

1:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Borys Wrzesnewskyj

We've added you to the list. Mr. Ehsassi was first on the list.