Evidence of meeting #1 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Stephanie Bond

11:50 a.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

[Inaudible—Editor]

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Just one second. Ms. Falk has the floor.

Ms. Kwan, we will come back to you.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Rosemarie Falk Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

That's a question. If anybody has anything in response to that, like Ms. Kwan....

11:50 a.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Thanks very much.

It's my understanding that some of the other committees adopted this motion as well.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Go ahead, Ms. Kwan.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

One second. My interpretation is not working. We'll have to suspend the meeting for a minute.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I call the meeting back to order.

Ms. Kwan had the floor. Go ahead.

11:50 a.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

I was just saying that I'm aware that this motion was adopted by other committees in the previous Parliament, and I believe it was adopted by the health committee as well. It's doable.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Thank you, Ms. Kwan.

The motion was circulated because it was adopted in the last Parliament, but it is out of order in this session. I have consulted the clerk, who mentioned that this motion has not been adopted by any other committee.

11:50 a.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

If I can follow up—

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Yes, Ms. Kwan.

11:50 a.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

— to get clarification, if it was out of order in the last Parliament, how did it get adopted? That doesn't really make sense to me.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Go ahead, Mr. El-Khoury.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Fayçal El-Khoury Liberal Laval—Les Îles, QC

Thanks, Madam Chair.

I would like to ask Madam Kwan if she could name the committee where that motion was adopted.

11:50 a.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

It's my understanding that the health committee, for example, adopted it in the last Parliament.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Fayçal El-Khoury Liberal Laval—Les Îles, QC

Are you sure about that, Ms. Kwan?

11:50 a.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

I've been advised by my colleague so—

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Members, please go through the chair, so I can recognize the members who would like to speak.

Go ahead, Marie-France.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Marie-France Lalonde Liberal Orléans, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Could we suspend for five or 10 minutes, please, so we can have a caucus conversation regarding this particular decision, as conversations are occurring right now?

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Would members like to discuss it? Okay.

We will suspend the meeting for five minutes and come back.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I call the meeting back to order.

Based on my discussion with the clerk of the committee, and based on what I read to all of the members, that motion was out of order. If I have the consent of all of the members, I would request that we rescind the vote and go back and have a debate before we proceed.

Can I have unanimous consent to rescind the vote on that?

Ms. Kwan.

Noon

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

I'm sorry, but before we do that, can we get verification on whether or not in the last Parliament, for example, the health committee passed this motion? I've been advised by my colleague that it did.

I'm just curious; if it passed in the last Parliament, why is it out of order in this Parliament?

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I will clarify that....

In response to Ms. Kwan's question, the ruling was provided in this Parliament. Yes, Ms. Kwan is right, it was adopted by one of the committees in the last Parliament, but the clerk's ruling in regard to this motion being out of order was not provided until this Parliament.

This motion is out of order. I would request unanimous consent, if we can have it, to rescind the motion.

Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe.

Noon

Bloc

Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe Bloc Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

May we obtain the text of the motion in both official languages? We would appreciate that.

Noon

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I can request that the clerk provide the wording in both languages.

Go ahead, Mr. Seeback.