Evidence of meeting #59 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was letter.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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Marilou McPhedran  Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

5:30 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

Marilou McPhedran

It was a combination, saying that we're issuing—

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Can you table that with the committee?

5:30 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

Marilou McPhedran

Yes, I can give you everything. I'm happy to. It's only in English, though.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Okay. I'm specifically interested.

Can you tell me which email address...? To follow up from Ms. Kayabaga, you know for a fact that you sent it to the actual ministers' personal email addresses.

5:30 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Okay.

Did you receive any responses from the ministers' P9s with regard to the facilitation letters?

5:30 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Can you table that?

5:30 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

Marilou McPhedran

I also received phone calls.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Can you table that with the committee as well?

5:30 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Okay.

I also think that it's really important what Ms. Kayabaga said—desperately important. Regardless of what you may think, I think it is important for anyone listening to this committee to understand that parliamentarians in the Senate or in the House of Commons do not have authorization to grant access to Canada, because I think that—

5:35 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

Marilou McPhedran

And I did not do that.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Okay.

Senator, I'm not clear at this point what you thought you did. I have a letter here saying, “visa facilitation letter”. There's a Globe and Mail article saying that Ms. Robinson said this letter would definitely get them into Canada.

For the record, for anybody who is listening around the world or in Canada, a parliamentarian cannot grant you access into Canada. We can't grant you access to an airport. There's a reason why we have government processes. I want to be very clear. Our job as parliamentarians is to fix the processes and to hold the government to account.

Senator, you put my family's lives at risk. You did.

April 19th, 2023 / 5:35 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

Marilou McPhedran

I reject that allegation.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

You did.

5:35 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

Marilou McPhedran

I reject that allegation. I did everything I could to try to help them.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

No. They went to the airport and they came—

5:35 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

Marilou McPhedran

They had to make choices.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

They put their lives in danger and then they weren't able to apply for a regular program. Do you know how much heartbreak that...?

Again, you just said earlier that you would do this all over again. Knowing what you know now, knowing that there are 150 people languishing in Albania because you took it upon yourself to issue these letters, would you do it again?

5:35 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

Marilou McPhedran

These women are in Albania with food, with shelter, with safety. They are in a much better position than in Afghanistan.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I'm sorry for interrupting—

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

What about my family?

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I'm sorry for interrupting. The time is up for Ms. Rempel Garner.

5:35 p.m.

Senator, Manitoba, not affiliated

Marilou McPhedran

Your family had to make choices like many of the other people we tried to help.