Those are also numbers that I've mentioned in my previous testimony. The 17,000-some from 2009, plus the lost Canadians remedied in 2015.... In fact, our updated numbers are in the range of just under 20,000 who came forward to request proof of citizenship.
The difference is that those are actuals. Those are persons who were remedied by the law and who actually came forward and applied since those legislative changes were passed. We continually update the numbers for these purposes, to provide up-to-date testimony at committee.
Those lost Canadians who came forward in those numbers that the member referenced, would be up to the first generation born abroad. The descendants of those people—should the committee and should Parliament legislate and pass this bill—would also have access to the connection test. However, they would be included in the rough estimate that I've alluded to—in the thousands, although it's difficult to know how many came forward—because those are actuals, as I mentioned, that you were provided at that time and that I mentioned, I think, during my first appearance before this committee.
Thank you.