I'm going to back to the Senate testimony on Bill S-230, which is the original version of this bill. During that testimony, there were numbers. Alec Attfield, director general, citizenship branch, strategic and program policy, IRCC—your predecessor, if I am correct—said that as a result of the 2009 changes and the subsequent 2015 changes, “As a result of the communications there, in the range of 17,500 people became Canadian citizens or regained their citizenship.... There was extensive and sustained communication at that time. With the 2015 amendments, another 600 cases were identified and became Canadians as a result of the changes in the law and the communication that resulted from that.”
The 40,000 to 60,000 annually now who request proof of citizenship—so the certificate or the number or the microfiches that we talked about last time—to get their number.... Those 17,500 at some point were requested from the department. Are they included in that, or is that separate? If the department, after the fact, was able to estimate for the 2009 changes and the 2015 changes, why can't the department provide a stronger estimate now?