Evidence of meeting #8 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subamendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jean Léger  Executive Director, Réseau des cégeps et des collèges francophones du Canada
François Dornier  Chairman of the Board, Réseau des cégeps et des collèges francophones du Canada
Shamira Madhany  Managing Director, Canada and Deputy Executive Director, World Education Services
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Paul Cardegna

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Does everyone agree on making a change? Mr. Genuis has mentioned that there is a grammatical mistake, and in order to change that, we would need unanimous consent.

Mr. Genuis, please repeat it again.

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

It would add after (c) in the amendment, “call on the Government of Canada to”.

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

The amendment Mr. Genuis has proposed would read, “call on the Government of Canada to implement visa-free travel from Ukraine to Canada”. That's the amendment after the friendly change to that and the unanimous consent.

We will wait for Ms. Kayabaga to send her friendly amendment to this subamendment.

12:45 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Madam Chair, while we wait, could I proceed with the amendment that I would like to propose so we can save time?

12:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Let's deal with this subamendment. We have to deal with the subamendment before we get to that.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Surrey—Newton, BC

Could we suspend for a few seconds?

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Yes, I can suspend the meeting for a few seconds until the clerk receives the friendly amendment.

12:50 p.m.

The Clerk

You don't have to suspend. I have it now. I can read that out to the members, if you wish.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

The clerk has received the friendly amendment from Ms. Kayabaga and he will read it.

Mr. Clerk, go ahead.

12:50 p.m.

The Clerk

With regard to Ms. Kayabaga's text, I don't know whether it would replace Monsieur Brunelle-Duceppe's amendment or it would be added to it, but the text is, “adopting an expedited and simplified visa process that ensures verifying security”.

If I may, I'll ask Ms. Kayabaga whether that is to replace Monsieur Brunelle-Duceppe's amendment or to be added at the end of it.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

That was my friendly amendment or friendly sub-subamendment. I don't know what they're called, so you tell me.

12:50 p.m.

The Clerk

I need to know what the committee wants to do. Does the committee want that to be a replacement of the text that Monsieur Brunelle-Duceppe proposed, or do they want it to be added to the end of it?

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Ms. Kayabaga, are you proposing this friendly amendment to replace what Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe brought as an amendment or to add it after that subamendment?

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

From the full proposal that Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe put on the floor....

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

I'm sorry, Ms. Kayabaga. Can you please repeat that?

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

It's to replace both Mr. Genuis's amendment and Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe's—

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

No, we cannot go to that. Right now, we have the subamendment. No change can be made to the amendment proposed by Mr. Genuis.

Now we are debating the subamendment that Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe proposed. If members agree, we can make a change to that subamendment.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

Arielle Kayabaga Liberal London West, ON

Let's do that with that proposal.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Madam Chair, I don't think we should proceed as proposed. We want to see the language of “visa-free travel” in there.

12:50 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Madam Chair, could I jump in? I've had my hand up for quite some time now but have not been recognized.

If I could jump in at this point, given that—

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Just one second. I'm consulting with the clerk on this. I have you on the speaking list, and we will get to you based on the speaking list.

Do all members agree to take this friendly amendment proposed by Ms. Kayabaga?

12:50 p.m.

Some hon. members

No.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Okay, so we have the subamendment proposed by Mr. Brunelle-Duceppe on the floor and we are debating that subamendment.

I have a speaking order of Mr. Redekopp and then Ms. Kwan.

Mr. Redekopp, go ahead.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Brad Redekopp Conservative Saskatoon West, SK

Thank you, Madam Chair.

I want to bring us back a little to just remember what's happening. We have a dictator in Russia who's attacking Ukraine. There are people in Ukraine who are suffering right now. We know that the government is not going to take what we do and implement it word for word. They're going to do their detail and they're going to do what they want to do. We're really conveying an intent here.

If I look at the clock, we have five minutes left. I would plead with everyone to not get bogged down in all these technical details that the government is going to ignore anyway. Let's convey the spirit of what we're trying to say to help the people of Ukraine. If we need a few more minutes, I'm proposing that we take those few minutes to get through this so that we get this done today.

That would be my humble and sincere request to this committee.

12:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Salma Zahid

Thank you, Mr. Redekopp.

Ms. Kwan, go ahead.