At the same time, some workers' rights advocates come to us and tell us that there are abuses directly related to the fact that the permits are closed and the program operates this way.
On the one hand, we know what it means for a producer if the worker goes elsewhere, but, on the other hand, cases of abuse have been documented. That's not to say that they are committed by all employers, but they have been documented. The police have even intervened in certain circumstances in Quebec, among others.
We realize that the status quo cannot be maintained. We can't keep the program as it is now. It's difficult for employers, but at the same time, a UN Special Rapporteur has compared the program to a breeding ground for modern slavery. Furthermore, workers' rights associations tell us that this is just the tip of the iceberg, because many workers don't even dare describe their situation for fear of being sent home.
How do we deal with the problem? Do you agree with me that it can't stay the way it is right now?