Evidence of meeting #25 for Citizenship and Immigration in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was cases.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Lena Metlege Diab  Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship
Harris  Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Amandeep Sodhi Liberal Brampton Centre, ON

Budget 2025 invests in attracting global talent to Canadian universities and research institutions. Are you able to briefly explain what role IRCC is playing in facilitating this strategy? How does it tie into, once again, the levels plan?

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

You have 50 seconds.

Amandeep Sodhi Liberal Brampton Centre, ON

Answer very briefly.

12:50 p.m.

Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Scott Harris

As I said earlier, we provided advice in terms of how the immigration system could work to support the objective of recruiting top talent to Canada in that space. For us, that involves fast-tracking processing where possible and ensuring that we're supporting a faster movement of people in that academic space.

Amandeep Sodhi Liberal Brampton Centre, ON

Thank you.

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

Thank you so much, Ms. Sodhi.

Thank you, Mr. Harris.

We have a bit of time remaining, so we're going to give two minutes to Mr. Menegakis and then two minutes to Ms. Zahid.

Mr. Menegakis, your two minutes start now.

12:50 p.m.

Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

Thank you.

Mr. Harris, how many more hotels have you helped to purchase with municipalities, other than the $40-million one you've already testified to?

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Scott Harris

I can't speak to how each municipality has used those resources.

The Ottawa purchase is—

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Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

It's not about how they use them. How many have you funded?

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Scott Harris

We provided the funding to municipalities, which then made decisions to do that.

Whether they've purchased old buildings.... They're often hotels, but they've purchased other buildings and retrofitted them into shelter capacity.

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Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

How did you budget for this? Did you just put a hotel line in your budget of $6 billion?

12:50 p.m.

Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Scott Harris

We don't have a hotel line. We have an interim housing assistance program, which has been in place since 2017.

That goes to provinces, in most cases, but in Ontario it goes directly to municipalities.

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Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

You basically shifted money from paying for hotels to giving money to municipalities so they can buy properties to house these people. It becomes less transparent.

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Scott Harris

Those are two separate programs. As I said, IHAP, the interim housing assistance program, which goes to the provinces and municipalities, existed before the interim lodging strategy. It was in place for hotels that dealt with the postpandemic border reopening pressure we felt before we closed the ports part of the STCA.

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Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

How did you prioritize Ottawa over, say, Montreal, Toronto or Vancouver? Why was Ottawa such a hotbed that it got a whopping $40 million?

12:55 p.m.

Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Scott Harris

We didn't prioritize it. The municipalities self-identified and reported experiencing pressure due to the arrival of asylum claimants.

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Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

Will you share with the committee which municipalities and how much money they got for this?

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Scott Harris

We can provide that.

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Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

Will you undertake to provide that, please? That's important information.

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Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

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Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

I don't know how much time I have left.

The Chair Liberal Julie Dzerowicz

You have nine seconds.

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Conservative

Costas Menegakis Conservative Aurora—Oak Ridges—Richmond Hill, ON

Well, thanks for coming, Mr. Harris.

Voices

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12:55 p.m.

Associate Deputy Minister, Department of Citizenship and Immigration

Scott Harris

Thank you for having me.