No, no. This is what I think the dichotomy is. I want a fair and just refugee system, but when we have an organization like yours come in and call asking about the sustainability of social programs “populist rhetoric”, it gets a lot harder for us to make the case for a sustainable refugee system.
I'd like to give you an opportunity to clear the record. Are you really telling the Canadian public that the amount of intake of asylum seekers and refugees doesn't have an impact on the 1,200% increase that we've seen in the usage and the cost of that program, which is designed specifically for that cohort?