Thank you, Chair.
Thank you to the witnesses.
In fact, I think that while on the face of it there could be a gap between what Ms. Stellinga has offered the committee and what you have offered, Mr. Barutciski, there is some overlap.
For example, Ms. Stellinga, you're talking about ultimately ensuring that we have a sustainable system whereby those who are in the process of claiming asylum can go to communities that can accommodate them, where they can find the chance for integration and services won't be overwhelmed.
Mr. Barutciski, I see you nodding. You do agree with that principle.
I want to learn more about the German model. All of that seems to be predicated on buy-in, not just from the federal side in Germany but from the regional Länder governments that you're referring to. The same would have to come into being here in this country if, ultimately, we were to see a move toward what both of you are suggesting in terms of the ability of communities to integrate, accommodate and ensure that services are not overwhelmed.
Would you say that's a fair characterization, Mr. Barutciski?