The immigration policies need to be more surgical in nature so that people can work with the businesses to identify the exact skill sets that are needed. As I said in my statement, we have a lot of businesses that might have 200 employees, but for about 15% of them, they took the time to teach them how to use specific machinery, equipment and innovations. To see them having to go because their work permits are expiring is detrimental, of course, to the family, but also to the employer, who put in all that money and investment. Immigration policy does need to be more surgical.
We learn by going to meet many of these businesses. I benefit so much when I go visit these businesses. I go as much as I can. You really start to learn about what exactly makes them tick, how they run and what they need. It's that kind of on-the-ground work that anyone who's developing these immigration policies really needs to get to know.