Evidence of meeting #27 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Thank you so much, Mr. Rickford and Mr. Wernick.
Mr. Wernick and Ms. Swords, we thank you so much for your time with us today. We certainly appreciate the clarity you have brought to the estimates process.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
There is no adjournment, actually. We have to get through some votes and we have very limited time.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
I'll recognize the point of order.
Thank you so much for being here. We'll allow you to leave the table.
Ms. Duncan.
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
Mr. Chair, I want to thank my colleague for intervening on the issue.
I didn't fully comprehend the answer Mr. Wernick gave to my question that it was in fact another deputy minister. It was incumbent upon the minister to have all the deputies and assistant deputies and associates and so forth here to answer the question.
My question was a very sincere one. It is based on recommendations made by Justice Sinclair.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Excuse me, colleagues.
Ms. Duncan, unfortunately that is not a point of order. Unless you are getting to a point of order, I'd be—
NDP
Linda Duncan NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB
Well, the point of order is that I do not feel I can vote on these estimates until I have the answer to the question.
It was a very sincere question: Do the estimated amounts in there include the recommended spending, apparently by the deputy in charge of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission?
NDP
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Ms. Duncan, I'm ruling on your point of order. The clarity you received was that there is $11 million, or just over, in addition to the over $7 million.
Whether that's clear enough for you or not, I can't speak to that, unfortunately.
Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Mr. Chairman, I could try to help Ms. Duncan with this.
The estimates in the planned spending reflect the $60-million figure. They do not reflect any of Mr. Sinclair's requests for additional spending.
Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
They would have to come in some future estimates.
NDP
Deputy Minister, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
They are not included. They reflect the $60-million budget, which he is taking issue with.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Thank you. That is clarity, and we appreciate that.
Folks, we do need to get through these, because next week these have to be referred back to the House; otherwise they'll be deemed to be reported back to the House. So I'd like to move immediately into the votes and supplementary (C) estimates.
I believe you have copies of the documentation in front of you, so I'm going to move directly into them.
INDIAN AFFAIRS AND NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT
Department
Vote 1c—Operating expenditures..........$1
Vote 5c—Capital expenditures..........$1
Vote 10c—The grants listed in the Estimates and contributions..........$39,585,765
(Votes 1c, 5c, and 10c agreed to)
HEALTH
Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency
Vote 27c—Operating expenditures..........$2,000,000
Vote 29c—Contributions..........$1
(Votes 27c and 29c agreed to)
Shall I report the supplementary estimates to the House?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin
Colleagues, moving to the voting on main estimates, we'll do the same process.
There's a lot of money here, folks, so I hope you're prepared to allocate significant amounts of resources.
INDIAN AFFAIRS AND NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT
Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Vote 1—Operating expenditures..........$1,165,796,716
Vote 5—Capital expenditures..........$22,372,815
Vote 10—Grants and contributions..........$6,365,423,613
Vote L15—Loans to native claimants..........$47,403,000
Vote L20—Loans to First Nations in British Columbia..........$31,200,000
Canadian Polar Commission
Vote 25—Program expenditures..........$1,177,747
First Nations Statistical Institute
Vote 30—Payments to the First Nations Statistical Institute..........$5,000,000
Indian Residential Schools Truth and Reconciliation Commission
Vote 35—Program expenditures..........$7,440,000
Registry of the Specific Claims Tribunal
Vote 40—Program expenditures..........$2,644,830
(Votes 1, 5, 10, L15, L20, 25, 30, 35, and 40 agreed to)
HEALTH
Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency
Vote 30—Operating expenditures..........$13,317,521
Vote 35—Contributions..........$36,661,803
(Votes 30 and 35 agreed to)
Shall I report the main estimates back to the House?
Conservative
