Evidence of meeting #19 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was schedule.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Andrew Saranchuk  Assistant Deputy Minister, Resolution and Individual Affairs Sector, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Martin Reiher  Acting General Counsel, Director, Operations and Programs, Legal Services, Department of Justice

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Colleagues, we'll call this meeting to order. This is the 19th meeting of the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

Today we are completing our study of Bill C-25, an act respecting the Qalipu Mi'kmaq First Nation Band Order in reference to this legislation. We will be going clause by clause.

Before we do that, we have a question for our departmental officials.

Ms. Crowder, we'll turn to you.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

Thanks, Mr. Chair.

I want to thank the department for coming before us.

I think you are aware that when we had testimony on Tuesday, one of the witnesses raised some questions about how the protest provision would apply. My understanding is that there is still provision for the protest provision to apply once something else happens. I wonder if you could clarify that for the committee.

3:30 p.m.

Andrew Saranchuk Assistant Deputy Minister, Resolution and Individual Affairs Sector, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

I'll let Mr. Reiher field that question; it's an inherently legal one.

3:30 p.m.

Martin Reiher Acting General Counsel, Director, Operations and Programs, Legal Services, Department of Justice

Thank you.

Indeed in the Indian Act an individual whose name is removed from the Indian Register or a band list has the opportunity to protest that removal. Thereafter, they have the opportunity to appeal to a provincial court from a decision on a protest.

This recourse will apply in this situation in the following manner. The first step in this process is that there is an enrolment process conducted by the enrolment committee, which produces a list of names that will be recommended for addition to the schedule to the order creating the band. Once this first step is completed, the schedule to the Qalipu Mi'kmaq First Nation Band will be amended and names will be added. Individuals from that point on will have an entitlement to registration and their name will be added to the Indian Register and to the band list of the first nation.

At that point there will be a right to protest the addition or removal of the name by the registrar. What the registrar will do upon such a protest is to look at whether or not the individual is entitled to be registered. In this context the entitlement to registration flows from paragraph 6(1)(b) of the Indian Act; that is, that the individual is actually a member of the body of Indians that has been declared to be a band. In other words, in this context the fact that the name of the individual is on the schedule to the order....

The registrar does not exercise his discretion in such a situation. He simply determines whether or not the name is on the schedule. The registrar will not look beyond the schedule. If the name is not on the schedule the registrar will not reconsider what the enrolment committee has determined.

That would be the answer. I hope that's complete.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Ms. Crowder.

3:30 p.m.

NDP

Jean Crowder NDP Nanaimo—Cowichan, BC

There was one other point with regard to the recourse to courts. My understanding is that clause 4 is about liability, but it doesn't prevent individuals from appealing the enrolment committee determination or to challenge in court through a judicial review application their exclusion from the schedule. Is that correct?

3:30 p.m.

Acting General Counsel, Director, Operations and Programs, Legal Services, Department of Justice

Martin Reiher

That is correct.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Mr. Saranchuk and Mr. Reiher, we want to thank you for being here.

I'm not sure.... Are there any other questions before we move into clause-by-clause?

Thank you for this clarification.

Colleagues, we'll skip the preamble and the short title.

(Clauses 2 to 4 inclusive agreed to)

I will move, then, to the short title. All those in favour?

3:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

On the title, all those in favour?

3:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

On the full bill, all those in favour?

3:30 p.m.

A voice

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3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Pardon me? Did I miss the preamble? I do apologize.

All those in favour of the preamble?

3:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

I do apologize, colleagues.

Now we'll go to the bill in its entirety, unamended. All those in favour?

3:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Shall I report this to the House?

3:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

3:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Chris Warkentin

Colleagues, that completes our deliberations on Bill C-25.

Our next meeting will be with regard to the briefing on wills and estates, colleagues. A background document will be circulated to you as members as soon as it's through translation, and we will have a briefing on Tuesday with regard to wills and estates.

If there's nothing further, colleagues, we'll adjourn.

The meeting is adjourned.