Evidence of meeting #148 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was families.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Brenda Dubois  Kohkum (Grandmother), Saskatchewan Aboriginal Women's Circle Corporation
André Schutten  As an Individual
Adrienne Pelletier  Social Development Director, Anishinabek Nation
Marie Elena Tracey O'Donnell  Legal Counsel, Anishinabek Nation
Judy Hughes  President, Saskatchewan Aboriginal Women's Circle Corporation
Chief Constant Awashish  Conseil de la nation Atikamekw
Anne Fournier  Lawyer, Conseil de la nation Atikamekw
Natan Obed  President, Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami
Lance Roulette  Sandy Bay First Nation
Richard De La Ronde  Executive Director, Child and Family Services, Sandy Bay First Nation
Jenny Tierney  Manager, Health and Social Development, Inuit Tapiriit Kanatami
Clément Chartier  President, Métis National Council
Billie Schibler  Chief Executive Officer, Metis Child & Family Services Authority
Greg Besant  Executive Director, Metis Child, Family and Community Services
Miriam Fillion  Communication Officer, Quebec Native Women Inc.
Viviane Michel  President, Quebec Native Women Inc.
Raven McCallum  Youth Advisor, Minister of Children and Family Development Youth Advisory Council, As an Individual
Mark Arcand  Tribal Chief, Saskatoon Tribal Council
Ronald Mitchell  Hereditary Chief, Office of the Wet'suwet'en
Dora Wilson  Hagwilget Village First Nation, Office of the Wet'suwet'en
Michelle Kinney  Deputy Minister, Health and Social Development, Nunatsiavut Government
Peter Hogg  As an Individual

1:25 p.m.

Prof. Peter Hogg

Bill C-92 is a good example of this. The bill talks about various expressions, but the act is all about indigenous people.

I have no doubt whatsoever that an act respecting children, youth and families is within Parliament's jurisdiction in this area, and that does provide the justification. The power over Indians and lands reserved for the Indians does provide the power for this kind of legislation.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Thank you so much, Professor.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

I think that our representative from Saskatchewan wanted to throw something in.

I don't know if you want to—

1:25 p.m.

Tribal Chief, Saskatoon Tribal Council

Chief Mark Arcand

It is not pertaining to that. It's an amendment.

I'm not sure, Madam Chair, if I just give this to you after or if you would like me to read it into the record.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Yes, give it to the clerk, because I have one more question that I'd like to ask Michelle, if possible.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

All right. This will be your last one.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Michelle, I want to ask a question, and we heard this from ITK as well, on how we can better support communities in gathering data.

We know there's a shortage of data in this whole process. How can we better do that?

1:25 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Health and Social Development, Nunatsiavut Government

Michelle Kinney

We're probably a little more fortunate than some other Inuit regions, in that we have a memorandum of understanding with the Newfoundland and Labrador government around some data sharing. With the new review we've just completed with the child and youth advocate, a lot of that data is coming forward, and with it, the recommendation that more of it has to be shared with us.

In response to the last question that was asked around finances, I would say that's a huge gap. When you ask what we think would be required for finances to implement this bill, we have no data around what is spent on our children in care. That's a huge gap for us. With regard to the data on the number of children in care, those kinds of things are fairly good.

I will say that often children who come into care early don't have beneficiary status. Social workers are not aware and don't apply for that status, so we miss children in that regard.

1:25 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

I guess that's why I was asking the question.

What kind of guidance could you give to other indigenous communities around that data-gathering process? What procedures could be put in place in order to achieve that better, based on the MOU you have?

1:30 p.m.

Deputy Minister, Health and Social Development, Nunatsiavut Government

Michelle Kinney

One thing I would say is very important is that we don't ask on forms within government if a child is indigenous or Inuit. We really need to go back and ask those questions of both the parents. If one parent is Inuit, then that should cue social workers to make an application or to seek further information on whether the child is an indigenous child. Right from the time a child comes into contact with social workers, questions should be asked, not just about the child but about the birth parents of the child as well.

1:30 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Thank you.

1:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal MaryAnn Mihychuk

Okay.

I believe we have a recommendation from Mark.

You're going to send that to the clerk, and that will be for our consideration. I want to thank you.

To all of our guests, I want to say a special thank you for participating.

Your comments and views will be taken very seriously by the committee. They are on the public record.

Thank you so much. Meegwetch. Have a great day.

The meeting is adjourned.