Evidence of meeting #32 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was community.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Scott Clark  Executive Director, Aboriginal Life in Vancouver Enhancement Society
Mavis Benson  Member, Cheslatta Carrier Nation
Gabriella Emery  Project Manager, Indigenous Health, Provincial Health Services Authority
Cassandra Blanchard  Program Assistant, Indigenous Health, Provincial Health Services Authority
Eric Klapatiuk  President Provincial, Aboriginal Youth Council, British Columbia Association of Aboriginal Friendship Centres
Cassidy Caron  Minister, Métis Youth British Columbia, Provincial Youth Chair, Métis Nation British Columbia
Tanya Davoren  Director of Health, Métis Nation British Columbia
Patricia Vickers  Director, Mental Wellness, First Nations Health Authority
Shannon McDonald  Deputy Chief Medical Officer, First Nations Health Authority
Joachim Bonnetrouge  Chief, Deh Gah Got'ie First Nations
Sam George  As an Individual
Gertrude Pierre  As an Individual
Ray Thunderchild  As an Individual
Yvonne Rigsby-Jones  As an Individual
Cody Kenny  As an Individual

2:55 p.m.

Ray Thunderchild As an Individual

[Witness speaks in Cree]

In my culture, it's appropriate for the elder to speak the language before he addresses people of authority. I'm going to assume you're the people of authority here.

My name is Munjuice, my nickname is Ray Thunderchild. I come from the Thunderchild Cree Nation, in Saskatchewan. I've made my home here in Vancouver for 25 years. I always let my elders come speak before I do. These are my colleagues, both of them, Gertie and Sam George. We work for the Indian Residential Schools Survivor Society as cultural support workers/elders.

My big thing in the overall picture is to keep the elders alive, keep them talking, keep them talking to the young people. Suicide, yes, it's a big thing in not just the first nations culture. Sometimes we need elders to open up, to talk to the younger people. I wrote a proposal here maybe some 15, 20 years ago to start a culture camp, sometimes even once every three months, to educate the young people. I carry my drum with me at all times. This is how I grew up. This is the way I was raised. Knock on wood when I say this, and I'm very proud to say this, I'm a 60-year-old man today, and have never ever been in jail because of this. I'm very proud to say that. My grandfather trained me and my father trained me before they passed on. They're both gone now. I often wonder what I am going to say, but I take my drum with me. My drum helps me. My feather helps me. The story of that eagle feather, this is what we walk on. We walk from the bottom. We have these little furries because we're just learning here yet. We have this walk to walk on. The one side is kind of small. We notice that a lot of people don't recognize the acknowledgements that they have created for themselves. Too many fall to the other side, the wide side. It's too easy. That's why suicide happens, so we need to prevent that. We need to bring elders forward to teach the young people.

First of all, the language is very important. I grew up in residential school, but I somehow maintained my language. I went to a day school, but even at day school it was really rough for me. I'm partially deaf because of day school, I'm crippled because of day school, but I'm still alive. That's the main thing. I continue to teach, but my grandfather taught me about this, the drum, the eagle feather. As I said earlier on, the road it gets narrower as we walk. We begin to understand sometimes, as we get halfway maybe. Some elders say they never make it to the top. Even if they're old, they never make it because sometimes they choose the other side and it's too easy for them. We need to educate a lot of these elders.

When they were talking about education earlier on, I don't even have a grade 5, yet I have two degrees. Somehow I maintained the ability to continue to do what I do today: teaching young people, educating elders about some of the stuff that they didn't know. I need to, we need to, our society needs to also, find some places where they can teach the young people, because suicide is too easy a way out for a lot of these young people.

Today there was the funeral for a young man everybody looked up to. We never thought that he would be the one to do it, but he hanged himself.

He's come a long way in that culture, that borrowed culture. Like Sam was saying, “I come from that culture, we've brought it over here.” My drums and my style of singing are my culture, the powwow is my culture, and the sweat lodge is my culture, everything in that way.

I'm very fortunate to also say that I have taught a lot of young people to come to that circle with me. Every Tuesday night, we sing powwow at the Vancouver Aboriginal Friendship Centre from seven o'clock until 10 o'clock. We don't just teach them when they're that small. We have young, small babies even sitting with us. We're training them already.

After 25 years of being here, some day I would like to invite all of you to come and see the evidence at that friendship centre. It's keeping everybody alive in that way. We can keep the Residential School Survivor Society going that way, helping the elders to educate more young people. I think that survival from suicide would be a lot better.

I want to continue to work on that behalf. I am not of this culture here. I'm here as a visitor, but I'm Canadian. I'm Cree. I'm very proud of it, very proud of what I do and where I go.

I'm also a very well-established first nations actor. I've been in major movies, where a lot of young people watched me and how I walk. This is how I walk. I bring them with me, and even the elders I bring them with me. I teach them. I am one, but I'd like to say that I want to thank you, each and every one of you, for hearing what I have to say and just to help out society in the best way that I can. I am only one, I wish I was more.

[Witness speaks in an aboriginal language]

3 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

Thank you, Mr. Thunderchild.

Ms. Rigsby-Jones.

3 p.m.

Yvonne Rigsby-Jones As an Individual

Good afternoon. My name is Yvonne Rigsby-Jones. I'm Snuneymuxw First Nation. My mother was from the white family and my father was first generation born in this country. My other grandparents came from England on a ship, a mixed blessing. I've had lots of gifts from walking in both worlds. I've worked in the addiction field. I retired from a treatment centre after almost 30 years. I'm currently working as the addiction specialist for the health authority.

However I'm here today as a wife, a mother, a grandmother. Following up on what I've heard today, I have three comments. One is Shannon McDonald commented on the trauma-informed schools, and I think so often over the years, people have worked in silos at whatever organization they're from. The trauma-informed schools are making a great difference for our children. Kuujjuaq has 14 trauma-informed schools and their completion rates have gone up immensely. Three states in the U.S. work with trauma-informed schools from kindergarten right through.

My daughter is a teacher in our school system and for the children who are living in violence or are hungry at school, they're living a lot of the residential school behaviours and issues in their homes. The majority of the staff do not know or understand their struggles. I'm an advocate for looking for solutions. I think that could be a part of one.

The other one that I want to bring forward is not very popular but we need to also figure out how to help and work with our sex offenders in communities because so many times one of the root causes of suicide is sexual abuse. To date no programs are running. I think if somebody is federally sentenced, the provincial justice system has excellent forensic programs in the individual towns but our nation doesn't have a safe way or a forum for people to receive help. We're going to continue to have victims of sexual abuse if we can't figure out how to help the offenders. I don't know if that's been brought up to you very often in this tour but I think it's a really important piece that is difficult to bring up and difficult for people to hear or scary to try to start to address. I'm just putting it forward.

The other piece that I heard Elder Sam George address is the lack of pride and identity. It's a huge piece of healing at the centre that I worked at for so many years. It was very common that people didn't know who they were as an aboriginal person. So many had no pride in being who they were. That part of the healing is always very beneficial. When your parents have grown up or you've grown up being called a stupid Indian, it is so inbred and stuck in your whole being.

My husband is a survivor of Alberni Indian Residential School. He was one of the pioneers and leaders in going forward with a court case. Where I worked, he did trauma healing for survivors of residential schools. Change is happening but not fast enough sometimes. We're still losing too many of our youths, and I echo what I heard just recently, one loss is one too many.

I thank you for your time and for listening to me.

I wish you a safe journey.

[Witness speaks in an aboriginal language]

3:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

Thank you very much for that; we're very grateful.

Nice to see you again, Mr. Kenny. Welcome.

November 2nd, 2016 / 3:05 p.m.

Cody Kenny As an Individual

Thank you for having me.

My name is Cody Kenny and I work for Aboriginal Sport BC. I represent an organization called BCAAFC, which is the BC Association of Aboriginal Friendship Centres. I've been working as the regional coordinator for the Vancouver coastal region for over a year now. I develop sport in our region for aboriginal youth, as well as for adults, through coaching clinics.

Before that I was working as aboriginal cultural programmer for the Carnegie Community Centre in the Downtown Eastside, which is a very highly populated aboriginal area and a very highly vulnerable area, so I can speak on behalf of that vulnerable section of Vancouver.

Moving into my new role, I got to experience a lot of things first-hand in terms of sport and where we're at in British Columbia, and I think we do need a lot of work.

Currently, the thing we do well is hosting large tournaments. In British Columbia there's a lot of aboriginal youth soccer tournaments in the spring and summer. Once they end, teens kind of end and there's no continuation, so I do really believe we need established commissioners and established leagues. We need to support through funding to bring our players to higher levels of competition.

One thing we did in the summer was host aboriginal soccer championships, and the winning team of these championships did go on to represent Team BC at the North American Indigenous Games. It was on me to put together U15 and U17 teams for men and for women. We lost, but forming these teams formed friendships and identity. It's sad that this only happens once every two years, that we have this tournament only once every two years.

Another thing we do really well is the All Native Basketball Tournament in Prince Rupert. Teams practice all year long, then they go up once a year to play in an all-native tournament, but once it's over, it's done.

What I truly believe is that we need continuation of programs like these. We need funding to bring our athletes to the next level, and supports so they stay together.

That's the bulk of it. Are there any questions?

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

Mike.

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Something Don and I were talking about earlier was that in non-indigenous communities we have so many opportunities for our children to find their passion. We see that in so many indigenous communities that doesn't exist, so I really commend you for the work you're doing and I hope you continue to expand. Hopefully, we can make that part of a recommendation in this report.

3:10 p.m.

As an Individual

Cody Kenny

Yes, that would be awesome.

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

Mike Bossio Liberal Hastings—Lennox and Addington, ON

Whether it's sport, art, music, drama, or whatever.

3:10 p.m.

As an Individual

Cody Kenny

A really cool initiative that just happened was that we come out with an equipment grant once a year. One of the communities that applied for it was Bella Bella. They wanted mats, because they haven't had appropriate gymnasium mats to do any sort of wrestling or gymnastics, or anything where they go on the ground. They were successful in getting their equipment grant.

I'm going to be working with them in sending up a jiu-jitsu black belt. He's totally keen on it, and I really think they can develop something cool up there.

3:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

Thank you so much for that, Cody.

I also want to say thank you to everybody who stayed to chat with us. We're very grateful, indeed. I also wanted to offer that if there is more you wanted to say and didn't have time, part of our study is to receive written statements. If anyone would like to submit anything to us, please see Grant here and he'll tell you how you can do that.

It's my regret that we're out of time today. As I mentioned, we have to pack up and move along to Sioux Lookout this evening.

Again, our sincere thanks for helping us do our job better.

The meeting is adjourned.