Evidence of meeting #35 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was status.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joëlle Montminy  Assistant Deputy Minister, Resolution and Individual Affairs Sector, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Martin Reiher  General Counsel, Department of Justice
Candice St-Aubin  Executive Director, Resolution and Individual Affairs Sector, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Nathalie Nepton  Executive Director, Indian Registration and Integrated Program Management, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Effie Panousos  Senior Policy Advisor and Manager, Treaties and Aboriginal Government Sector, Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
Stéphane Descheneaux  As an Individual
Rick O'Bomsawin  Chief, Abénakis Band Council of Odanak
David Schulze  Legal Counsel, Abénakis Band Council of Odanak

5:20 p.m.

Chief, Abénakis Band Council of Odanak

Chief Rick O'Bomsawin

If they met with individual people, that defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Yes, but—

5:20 p.m.

Chief, Abénakis Band Council of Odanak

Chief Rick O'Bomsawin

They can tell me that person said anything.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

You said you met with a group of chiefs, recently.

5:20 p.m.

Chief, Abénakis Band Council of Odanak

Chief Rick O'Bomsawin

No, when we had the chiefs assembly, the Quebec chiefs came. We made it very clear, and they made it clear, that it was not a consultation. It was strictly for information to say what they thought or where they were at.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Okay, so that was the assembly of chiefs meeting—

5:20 p.m.

Chief, Abénakis Band Council of Odanak

Chief Rick O'Bomsawin

Yes, of Quebec.

5:20 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

They didn't organize it. You organized it, and they showed up.

5:20 p.m.

Chief, Abénakis Band Council of Odanak

Chief Rick O'Bomsawin

They called us and asked if they could come and have a few minutes to explain what they were doing and where they were going, and to see if we had questions. We had asked them several questions. We got the same answer that you guys got, which was, “We'll get back to you.” We've never heard anything back yet. That was at the time when we explained to them that.... I made it clear to her that they never consulted us, and they never asked us anything. Now they're telling me that they have this February deadline that they have to live up to, and there's nothing they can do about it. I suggested at the time that they ask the court for an extension, so we could close all the files, instead of closing one, going back to court, and then doing it again. As of Friday, she told me that they were not asking for an extension. I find that very strange, because I made it very clear that if they didn't ask for an extension and if we didn't solve all these problems, then we were going to be right back in court again. She said that was fine.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

This meeting that you had was, in your opinion, the first date, and they thought you got married.

5:25 p.m.

Chief, Abénakis Band Council of Odanak

Chief Rick O'Bomsawin

That was the very first tip. Exactly, you got it.

5:25 p.m.

Conservative

Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB

Interesting.

I don't really have any more questions, Chair, so I'll cede the floor.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

Thank you very much. I much appreciate that.

Well, that brings this panel to a close.

Gary did you want to say something?

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Rouge Park, ON

I would like to move the budget.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

Great. Thank you.

Let me just say thank you. I appreciate your testimony very much, as does the committee as a whole. We have two minutes of committee business to do while you pack up.

5:25 p.m.

Chief, Abénakis Band Council of Odanak

Chief Rick O'Bomsawin

I would like to thank you all for having us come here today. Thank you very much.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

We are in a situation where we're inviting witnesses and paying for them; we have more coming in the weeks ahead, and we need to pass a budget. That budget has been passed around.

Gary, put a motion to approve the budget, as presented.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Rouge Park, ON

Yes, I so move.

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

The seconder is David.

(Motion agreed to)

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Andy Fillmore

Thank you very much.

The meeting is adjourned.