Evidence of meeting #4 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was crisis.
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Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
But you would have had influence. You would have had influence.
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Liberal
Carolyn Bennett Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON
—but also, Coastal GasLink had impact benefit agreements with most of them. This was a B.C. project. My job was to carry on from what had been decided in the Delgamuukw decision so that in the future, the whole of the nation would create the kind of governance model and decision-making processes that we are now seeing in Gitanyow and Heiltsuk and Haida. When the elected chiefs and the hereditary chiefs come together in a governance model with their own laws and policies, that is the way forward and that is the only durable solution.
My appearance was not about one project. It's about the future of Canada.
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Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
It is, but when you exclude the people who are in support of the project, you silence one half, or probably more, of this debate. If you're only hearing from one side against a project, when you're negotiating title, which has impacts, again, you're leaving out the other side.
But I won't dwell on that, because we have only a minute left.
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Liberal
Carolyn Bennett Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON
Jamie, I don't think you heard me. I said the matriarchs were there. I heard from each of them on Thursday—
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Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
On the third day. Why weren't they there at the beginning?
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Liberal
Carolyn Bennett Liberal Toronto—St. Paul's, ON
That was the beginning. They were right there, at the first—
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Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
We're hearing a witness who is saying no.
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
They weren't there for the whole discussion.
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Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
They weren't there to discuss anything.
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Liberal
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Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
How do they have a voice if they're not there?
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Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
They were there at the beginning, then they were removed—
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Conservative
Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON
—and then they were there the third day.