Evidence of meeting #29 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jacques Maziade  Legislative Clerk
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Naaman Sugrue
Koren Marriott  Senior Counsel, Aboriginal Law Centre, Aboriginal Affairs Portfolio, Department of Justice
Laurie Sargent  Assistant Deputy Minister, Aboriginal Affairs Portfolio, Department of Justice
Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk

The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina

Mr. Clerk, would you please take the vote on amendment CPC-7?

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Go ahead, Mr. Schmale.

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

The next is adding a subparagraph 6(2)(a)(iv): “adding resources required to implement the action plan;”.

That addition is intended to introduce a requirement on the government to identify resources to create additional accountability for effective implementation.

The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina

Mr. Anandasangaree, do you wish to speak?

Gary Anandasangaree Liberal Scarborough—Rouge Park, ON

It's just a clarification, Mr. Chair. That would be subparagraph 6(2)(a)(iii), because proposed subparagraph 6(2)(a)(iv) was defeated.

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

Oh, right. Thank you, Gary. That's correct.

12:35 p.m.

Legislative Clerk

Jacques Maziade

Can I clarify, Mr. Schmale? Do you move all of amendments—CPC-5, CPC-6, CPC-7, CPC-8a and CPC-8b, CPC-9a and CPC-9b?

12:35 p.m.

Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

No, we're going to cut this down for time, because I'm getting the theme of the meeting here. We've already done amendments CPC-3 and CPC-4, and I'm going to introduce CPC-5, CPC-6, and CPC-7.

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Legislative Clerk

Jacques Maziade

It's amendments CPC-5, CPC-6 and CPC-7. Okay.

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Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

I'll cut this down, because there seems to be a common theme.

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Legislative Clerk

Jacques Maziade

Are you moving them all at once or one after the other?

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Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

I'll move one after the other, because I think that's the way the committee agreed to do it.

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Legislative Clerk

The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina

I'm prepared, in the interest of time, Mr. Schmale, to take them as a group, if that works.

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Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

How do you intend to vote that if someone wants a particular motion? How do they vote?

The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina

Okay, we'll skip that and we'll go individually.

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Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

I'm hoping the theme of the meeting breaks here and that we're able to.... I guess this would be subparagraph 6(2)(a)(iii), then: “resources required to implement an action plan”.

The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina

Okay. We'll vote on the amendment, Mr. Clerk.

The Clerk

Yes, Mr. Chair; just one moment while I confer with my legislative colleagues.

It will be a recorded vote on amendment CPC-8.

The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina

The vote is on the amendment.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Go ahead, Mr. Schmale.

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Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

Okay, I guess this, then, would be the new subparagraph 6(2)(a)(iii), potentially.

It would add “foster a common understanding of the Declaration, including provisions related to the principle of free, prior and informed consent (FPIC), the federal government, in collaboration with Indigenous peoples, must involve provinces, territories, industry, and the public in the development of the action plan”.

That's it for that one.

The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina

Thanks.

Mr. Schmale, I'm lost for a moment. Exactly where does this come into the document?

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Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

This would be subparagraph 6(2)(a)(iii). It would have been (v) or (vi), but we've voted down a couple of those proposed amendments, so this is the new number (iii).

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Legislative Clerk

Jacques Maziade

Mr. Chair, it goes under subclause 6(2), paragraph (a). Mr. Schmale would add a subparagraph, the text he just read.

The Chair Liberal Bob Bratina

Thanks very much for that.

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Mr. Schmale, do you have one more?

12:40 p.m.

Conservative

Jamie Schmale Conservative Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock, ON

There are two more. These are really quick.

This would be the new subparagraph 6(2)(a)(iii): “ensure that final decision-making authority on major projects rests with the Crown in order to maintain clear legal jurisdictions and accountability”.