Evidence of meeting #111 for Indigenous and Northern Affairs in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was communities.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Nadine Leblanc  Interim Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice-President, Policy, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation
Commissioner Warren Brown  Indigenous and Support Services, Royal Canadian Mounted Police

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

Mr. Chair, do I have the floor? I'm interrupted every time I raise the Conservatives' record on indigenous housing.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Patrick Weiler

There's a point of order that's been raised.

Mr. Zimmer.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

When we come here as opposition to question the minister.... They've been here for nine years, and houses are not getting built—

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Liberal

Jaime Battiste Liberal Sydney—Victoria, NS

That's not a point of order.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

I'm getting to it.

We're then questioned about the time and length of our question, when I'm talking about a story about Kevin and Malaya, people who are living in squalor because of this minister's inaction.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

Mr. Chair—

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

If that's taking too much time, I apologize, but this minister needs to answer the questions we are asking of him.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

I have no problem with the time of the question.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Patrick Weiler

I don't believe that's a point of order.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

It's not a point of order; I agree with you.

Moreover, I have no problem with the length of the question. I actually wish the previous questioner spent as much time on indigenous housing.

What I have problems with is the Conservatives trying to shut down an answer that may be uncomfortable for them, because what I hear behind that question, coming from a member who opposes the very investments that are designed to address the needs he's raising in his question, when I know that he stands and votes against those measures—

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

I'll claim back my time.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

—I ask myself if he is trying to score a point or solve a problem.

It's clear his interest is to score a political point, because when the Conservatives had an opportunity to make investments to build housing in indigenous communities, they chose not to. When they have an opportunity to vote for or against investments, they vote against.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

It's my time, Mr. Chair.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

I will take with a grain of salt the continued interruptions because this is uncomfortable given the historic record of Conservatives withdrawing investments—

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

On a point of order, can I have my time back?

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS

—when it comes to housing in indigenous communities.

Question away. Take as much time as you would like, but let's engage in a real conversation rather than cheap shots for Facebook.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

Mr. Chair, I'd claim my time back for the last minute because he's just been running off on an answer talking about a previous Conservative government.

The questions are for the government that's been in power for 10 years. His responsibility as minister is to answer my question, and you're not recognizing that I'm trying to claim back my time, Mr. Chair. It's our time. It's not the minister's.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Patrick Weiler

Okay. I understand that, and you still have a minute and a half.

11:50 a.m.

An hon. member

I have a point of order.

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Patrick Weiler

That's not a point of order.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

Is it my time?

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Patrick Weiler

Yes, continue.

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Eric Melillo Conservative Kenora, ON

How else is he going to get his time back?

11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Bob Zimmer Conservative Prince George—Peace River—Northern Rockies, BC

Do I have my time?

11:50 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Patrick Weiler

The clock is running.