Mr. Chair, I have a point of order, quickly, on the same point of order, because this keeps coming up.
It might be uncomfortable for Mr. Carr's Liberal caucus, but we're talking about a case of indigenous identity fraud. We're talking to the minister responsible for the government's efforts on reconciliation. It obviously impacts those reconciliation efforts when a member of the Liberal caucus is engaged in indigenous identity fraud and whose company falsely represented itself as indigenous to try to get government contracts. He remains in the Liberal caucus. That's very different from questions about committee assignments, etc.