Valerie Gideon (Deputy Minister, Department of Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs) at the Indigenous and Northern Affairs Committee

I don't have the global number at that time of 2017 because it included not just Indigenous and Northern Affairs, but also the first nations and Inuit health branch that was part of ISC. The separation process did take about two years until the final legislation to establish both departments was passed. We can get that number for you.