Well, clearly, there are programs that Canada was running. UPIP is the acronym for it, urban programs for indigenous populations, and it was sports and recreation investments of proactiveness. That program has been cut now. We're wondering where it's at. We're pushing Canada to see where it's at. We understand that it will be expanded for one year. We don't know what's after that.
That program makes change. That's a particular program where you have collaboration. It's where the federal government, which has jurisdiction with indigenous people, is actually investing in something proactive in the villages and communities. That's the only thing they have. They have nothing else. I know that you can't tell provincial schools what to do because the provinces run the schools, but if you don't have anything proactive in a school that will have kids busy and involved in something proactive, where they can gain pride, self-esteem and have a better outlook for the future, you're not going to make that change.
From our perspective, we believe in sitting down with the police, with the ministers and coming up with a collaboration, but it has to be distinct based. You cannot be indigenous.... That's the only way you're going to measure whether I'm a failure as a leader, whether I'm not doing justice with the resources I'm managing or whether the investment we're doing is not working and we need to change it, stop it and go in a different direction. There's no way you're going to make change unless you go distinct based.
