With respect to that exchange, I wouldn't be surprised. I wasn't there, so I cannot say yes or no.
It was clear that the first discussion was open, but soon after, quickly, in another debate, Minister Gull-Masty was honest with me that she, or the government, didn't want any amendments. I mentioned that I could step down as a sponsor if she wanted, because for Bill C-38 and Bill S-2, I cannot say no to an important amendment like the one we have in front of us.