Absolutely. Look, it's not just Finland. All the Nordics embrace the concept of total defence. This is what you need for not just traditional military threats but also the natural disasters that we're currently facing and have had difficulty managing.
One can imagine a scenario, Mr. Chair, where, if you want to see your sovereignty slip away, there is a situation in which Canada, on its own territory, is not able to deal with a major disaster and our major ally comes in and decides that it's not really going to go. You need to be able to deal with that. The way you deal with that is by having a citizenry and a population that is able to answer the call when something occurs. This is the total defence concept. This is training people to know that they have to be able to protect themselves, that they have to be able to take care of themselves for 48 to 72 hours and that we can mobilize our youth to deal with a major earthquake or fires or whatever it is so that we can handle the problem on our own, lest we be forced to call somebody else to do it for us.