I'll give you an example. How is France able to maintain its production of Rafale fighter jets? Sometimes they have to pay Dassault Aviation to build only one plane a year. That is part of France's sovereign policy. It's accepted. Are Canadians prepared to do that from time to time? Are we prepared to tell the industry that the production chain is so important to our nation that we are prepared to pay them to build a little less equipment and move more slowly?
I do a lot of research in France, and I can tell you straight off that we can't have a defence industry without exports. It's essential. It is essential for France, and it is also essential for us. There's no denying it. You have to be willing to accept that. This goes back to a comment that was made in the last panel: We also need all parties in Canada to agree on guidelines regarding foreign arms sales. We have to agree on the guidelines and the framework. Otherwise, there will be scandals and controversies, and projects will fall apart. As a result, the industry will not want to invest more.