I'm specifically talking about the space side. I'm pretty sure defence as a whole.... Even in the maritime domain, we are becoming a purchaser.
Specifically talking to the space side, Canada just recently signed a contract on WildFireSat. Canada does not have a very active space ecosystem when it comes to contracting active projects. We just signed a wildfire project, and phase one is $150 million, I believe. The companies that have that project are an American company and a German company.
I don't think that's anyone's fault. I don't think any Canadian companies are put out of that. The reason behind it is that we simply do not have the sorts of systems built in Canada that can respond to those needs. We basically end up going into the market and seeing what other countries are building, and we ask, “Can we use your systems? We'll pay for them.”
That's very dangerous, because a lot of the capabilities across the defence domain need to be.... We need to pick and choose which areas we're working with. We have a very strong shipbuilding program. When it comes to other domains of defence, are we going to become just a purchaser or are we going to put our foot down? Some of these emerging markets, including commercial space, are very raw. However, we have countries like the U.S.... Germany is a very good example. A lot of G7 countries put a significant amount of funds behind these markets.
We're simply falling way behind, and we're going to sit in the back and become purchasers.