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With the MACH program, and all the other programs that Aéro Montréal has, we try to de-risk the first contract. Having the first contract in defence is going to take long, especially in aerospace. The investment cycles are very long. We tend to make sure we get funding from the federal and provincial governments to give back to the SMEs in a fashion they understand.
We have programs that are not complicated. The support the SMEs will need will be on de-risking their first certification. The first certification is with ITAR, for example, for controlled goods, or with CMMC. It can cost up to $150,000 to be certified with CMMC.
If you want to deal with the DOD in the United States, that's mandatory. What we do with our programs that are funded by the government is de-risk the first step in the defence market.