That's a complex question. I'll try to do my very best to answer it.
I certainly can't speak for Neil Desai, but I would say having the incubators and all the various supports you see for small business start-ups—not so much scale-ups, but certainly start-ups in Canada—is a very healthy thing. You see a lot of companies get going.
The statistics around success rates of start-ups are pretty terrible. You do get validation through incubation and some of the nurturing that happens there, but the most true validation of a business is from the market. I think that's what we're probably missing.
Procurement in Canada is a game where we play not to lose, to quote Emad Rizkalla, one of my friends. We're not playing to win. We're very careful and very cautious, and of course, as it's taxpayers' money we should be, but I think we need to be prepared to take more risks in procurement.
With the Canadian Armed Forces, if the current expansion of investment is going to provide the opportunity for full participation across this country, then I think we can get a lot of validation that's true to the market and that builds a lot of scale-ups into bigger and medium-sized companies.