One of the other two panellists touched on that. Regarding the defence sector, there are some barriers to getting into that. It is hard to get the approvals. The cybersecurity levels they need are very prohibitive. It's a lot of work, and it's expensive. The volumes in defence are not the same as in automotive or those industries where there's a lot of product being pumped out, so they would have to adjust to that.
It's an avenue, but there are definitely barriers to getting into defence specifically. Easing some of those barriers and giving them the resources to overcome some of them would be positive things. There's a huge interest in defence right now, and EMC is doing defence sector sessions across the country. We've put about 500 manufacturers through them in the past two weeks. There's great interest to learn and to explore it for sure, but there are barriers to getting into it that need to be eased.