I appreciate that.
Mr. Shipley, Ms. Quaid, Mr. Camfield and Ms. Curran, thank you for availing yourselves of the committee today for an important conversation in regard to the role that a variety of different industry players and, of course, the citizenry and public policy-makers in Canada play in ensuring the health and well-being of all people across the country vis-à-vis the protection against fraud and scams. I appreciate your time.
Colleagues, I'm going to suspend for five minutes while we turn over to our next witness, who will be appearing online.