Just to jump in, that was clear from the 1980s and 1990s in Ottawa. You had a virtuous cycle that was created over a span of two decades, essentially a generation. With only one standard-bearer, Shopify, right now, it's difficult to create that virtuous cycle in the same way.
You have to take as many shots on net as you can in order to create the next generation of companies in this country, and that's going to require a significant amount of investment at the primary level and then ultimately funding the commercialization after the fact.
