I'll just add to that.
I think the difficulty is that there are a number of different factors going on here. I look at it from the perspective of overall manufacturing competitiveness. What we're seeing is actually a transformation of the manufacturing sector. We've had these discussions with the CME, with whom we work very closely, in looking at the issues in follow-up to the CME's Manufacturing 20/20. I hesitate to use the word “definition”, but one way we now have of referring to the manufacturing sector is to refer to processes that create and deliver value by way of tangible goods. There are companies that consider themselves to be in the manufacturing world but may not touch a physical good, yet are very active in terms of the design, the logistics, and other aspects of the manufacturing process overall.
What that means is that it has a lot of implications for the types of skills needed, which we've already talked about. The other thing it means, as you've noted—and I believe David Dodge also made this point—is that it's from individual sector to individual sector. It's not a monolithic sector. We really have to boil it down and look at what happens at sector by sector, at the same time as people making recommendations with respect to policy need to consider the big factors here—and obviously one of those is skills.