Evidence of meeting #66 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was athletes.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Lou Ragagnin  Chief Operating Officer, Canadian Olympic Committee
Cynthia Rowden  Past-President, Intellectual Property Institute of Canada
Jeff Bean  Olympian, Freestyle Skiing, Canadian Olympic Ski Team, As an Individual
Brian MacPherson  Chief Operating Officer, Canadian Paralympic Committee
Roger Jackson  Chief Executive Officer, Own the Podium 2010
Guy Tanguay  Chief Executive Officer, AthletesCAN
Jasmine Northcott  Athlete Forums Director and Operations Manager, AthletesCAN
Julie D'Amours  Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Industry
Susan Bincoletto  Director General, Marketplace Framework Policy Branch, Department of Industry
Darlene Carreau  Counsel, Industry Canada, Legal Services

11:15 a.m.

Independent

André Arthur Independent Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

I don't understand very well the intent to micromanage justice. I sure hope that if ever an appeal is lodged, it's going to be judged by somebody who has legal experience. To say that it has to be legal experience in such-and-such an area of justice seems to be a little preposterous, for a parliamentary entity or the Parliament of Canada to say to the head judge of whichever court is going to hear the appeal, “Make sure the guy you name will be competent.” This is kind of funny, as far as I'm concerned.

As much as we have to defer to the courts as far as their ability to judge is concerned, I would be a little bit terrified that any of those modifications could end up justifying somebody deciding that the injunction given will be suspended for the appeal.

How is that timing going about?

Will the right to appeal, which exists regardless of the amendment, allow for the harmful activity to be continued or will the injunction remain in force throughout the appeal?

11:15 a.m.

Counsel, Industry Canada, Legal Services

Darlene Carreau

In terms of Federal Court proceedings, Federal Court Trial Division decisions, if the Federal Court is granting the injunction, it is an executory decision. It is a final order, so if a party appeals and wishes not to have that Federal Court Trial Division decision apply, they need to get a stay of that decision.

11:20 a.m.

Independent

André Arthur Independent Portneuf—Jacques-Cartier, QC

Thank you.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I have Mr. Masse.

11:20 a.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Mr. Chair, obviously this is special legislation providing unprecedented powers; hence, I'm suggesting a system within that framework, as opposed to sending it to the existing judicial framework we have. That's the reasoning behind my suggestion. Even the 1976 Olympics bill actually had comprehensive legislation, as opposed to this being very specific to one issue in particular.

So I stand by the motion, and I'm open to amendments. If members have criticisms and suggestions, I'd be happy to receive them as subamendments, and I'll leave it at that.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I don't see any further comments on amendment NDP-3.

(Amendment negatived) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

11:20 a.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Can we get a recount?

11:20 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

11:20 a.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

(Clauses 6 and 7 agreed to)

(On clause 8--Detention and disposition of imported wares)

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I have amendment G-4, on page 10.

Mr. Carrie.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Colin Carrie Conservative Oshawa, ON

The object here is to make sure that the English is as specific as the French version.

To make sure it is interpreted in the same way. That is very important.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Dan McTeague Liberal Pickering—Scarborough East, ON

Agreed.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Is everybody okay with this amendment?

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

(Clause 8 as amended agreed to)

(Clauses 9 to 12 inclusive agreed to)

(On clause 13--Schedule 2)

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I have amendment NDP-4, on page 11.

Mr. Masse, I'll get you to speak to that.

11:20 a.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

This simply ensures that schedule 3 is sunsetted with schedule 2. Schedule 2 has an identifiable date, December 31, 2010. Schedule 3 has that part omitted, so this just ensures that it's at the same time and that there can be no misunderstanding of that.

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Ms. Fry.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

I think the amendment's addition of schedule 3 is fine, but I just wanted to get a clarification from the panel and Ms. Carreau.

The concern here is that if all we're doing is deleting or repealing schedules 2 and 3, then does clause 6 stay in this, or does clause 6 go as well?

11:20 a.m.

Counsel, Industry Canada, Legal Services

Darlene Carreau

Clause 6 stays, but the relevant provision for this is really clause 4 on ambush marketing. The provisions will stay and in fact the schedule will stay. All we're doing is emptying the schedule.

11:20 a.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

So you will now have new benchmarks for proving.... I mean, will “irreparable harm” remain, or is it going to sunset? This is what I meant by clause 6.

11:20 a.m.

Director General, Marketplace Framework Policy Branch, Department of Industry

Susan Bincoletto

Clause 12 currently provides for Governor-in-Council authority to prescribe regulations; and clause 6, on the waiving of irreparable harm, which you're referring to, will expire, as prescribed by regulation. And currently it is the government's intent in clause 12 to issue regulations that will make it absolutely clear that the ambush-marketing provision in clause 4 and the waiving of the irreparable harm in clause 6 will cease to have effect as of December 31, 2010.

So there is no link with schedule 3, which is linked more as a factor to determine ambush marketing in clause 4, as my colleague mentioned. But with clause 6, its validity will only have effect as per the regulations.

11:25 a.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

Thank you. That's what I wanted to find out. That's all I needed to clarify.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you, Ms. Fry.

(Amendment agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

(Clause 13 as amended agreed to)

(Clauses 14 and 15 agreed to)

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall schedule 1 carry?

11:25 a.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

11:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall schedule 2 carry?