Let's call the meeting to order again. I want to thank especially the witnesses, with the interruption of the vote, for staying with us until 2 p.m. today.
Again, formally on the record, I do want to apologize to the witnesses on the second panel, but they will be with us on Tuesday from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m., during our regular committee hours.
I will resume with the list. We had finished with Mr. Van Kesteren, and we will now go to Mr. Telegdi.