I'd like to add to that.
On the future for Nortel--and I have not spoken to Nortel about this--I observed in the newspapers that there have been discussions about Nortel taking the patents it owns, licensing them, and using them as a basis of revenue going forward. So on the patents that have been licensed to Ericsson, because the ownership is retained by Nortel, they could license them to each one of Ericsson's competitors and have that as a source of revenue. So that is quite different from the vision you had of hollowing out Nortel, because they would have this as a future revenue stream.