All right. One moment.
Mr. Bouchard, go ahead.
Evidence of meeting #38 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was clause.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Conservative
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Bloc
Robert Bouchard Bloc Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC
I get the impression that a vote was requested a little too soon. Could we know who opposed it and who was in favour?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
Okay.
I will again call the question on clause 6 as amended....
You want us to vote on your amendment?
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Bloc
Robert Bouchard Bloc Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC
You said it had been negatived, but I didn't see any hands raised. Actually, I saw some, but not all.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
Okay. We will have the vote.
Madam Coady, or Madam Rota...or Mr. Rota, go ahead.
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Liberal
Anthony Rota Liberal Nipissing—Timiskaming, ON
I know you've been up for a while; congratulations.
We were just clarifying the difference here. Perhaps we can have two seconds amongst ourselves to discuss it.
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Conservative
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Liberal
Siobhan Coady Liberal St. John's South—Mount Pearl, NL
And what happens to Bloc amendment 1 because of Bloc amendment 1.1?
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
We have not considered Bloc amendment 1 because we have stood clause 2 for procedural reasons. We will consider clause 2 at the end of this meeting. We have begun with clause 3.
Currently we're considering Bloc amendment 1.1, which amends clause 6.
Seeing no further debate on Bloc amendment 1.1, I'm going to call the question on the Bloc amendment.
Monsieur Gaudet.
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Bloc
Roger Gaudet Bloc Montcalm, QC
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Leduc didn't answer my question about the Conservatives' t-shirt.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
I think he adequately answered your question, but
Mr. Leduc, if you wish, you can answer Mr. Gaudet's question.
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Policy Analyst, E-Commerce Policy, Department of Industry
If a political party wants to engage in electronic commerce, it must follow a process if, for example, it sends e-mails to its members in the context of a dinner. Subclause 10(6) of the bill states that, in the context of a relationship with a member of a party, that person can always send out e-mails to promote a dinner, sell t-shirts and so on. You always have the right to do so if you obtain tacit or implicit or express consent.
However, it is considered illegal under the bill to send an e-mail to all Canadians stating that you are organizing a dinner.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Michael Chong
One moment, please, while we get the translation issues addressed.
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Conservative
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Bloc
Robert Bouchard Bloc Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC
I'd like to ask another question.
Mr. Leduc, let's suppose a political party does some polling via the Internet. When you poll, you contact citizens who haven't given their consent. Would that political party be violating the act?
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Policy Analyst, E-Commerce Policy, Department of Industry
No, purely and simply. If the party is not selling products, such as tickets for a dinner or t-shirts, but is conducting voting polls, it doesn't apply. That's not business.
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Bloc
Robert Bouchard Bloc Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC
So it would apply if the political party was engaged in commercial activities.
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Bloc
Robert Bouchard Bloc Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC
Earlier you talked about a grey area, about an uncertainty. What type of activity did that refer to?
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Policy Analyst, E-Commerce Policy, Department of Industry
That applies only when the political party engages in commercial activities. Otherwise, it doesn't apply.
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Bloc
Robert Bouchard Bloc Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC
If I organize an activity to raise funds, that's not a commercial activity in your mind?
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Policy Analyst, E-Commerce Policy, Department of Industry
No. The fund-raisers of a political party are not commercial activities.
October 21st, 2009 / 3:45 p.m.
Conservative