If I could just make a comment on that, we did a scan of all of the investments that we've made over the years at GrowthWorks, and over 40% of the companies that we've invested in, either directly or indirectly, originated through research at a university.
Richard and I listened to an entrepreneur last week, a very successful chap here in Ontario, who has probably raised in excess of $100 million for three different companies. We got into a bit of a philosophical discussion over whether this is an issue for the private sector to deal with or for government to deal with, but what he explained was it's got nothing to do with that; it's all about country versus country. He travels to China, I think once a month he said, Richard, and 60 times in the last five years, and the kinds of incentives and the kinds of resources that folks in China are prepared to make available to his company, if he were to move there, are just incredible.
So it's really about whether we want to encourage new technologies in this country, and develop the new industries, the new emerging technologies. That's what it's really all about. Government has a significant role to play there, in my view.