There was never a discussion of a specific dollar amount on the retail stations. There was discussion of a formula upon which a purchase price for those retail locations would be based. We offered, in writing, $150 million. We understood from Shell that they believed there was still a significant gap in value. Our attitude about that was that we'd like to try to find a way to close that gap. We didn't think we could go over $200 million, recognizing that at the time we had no knowledge that there'd been a discussion between them and the committee of a purchase price of $150 million to $200 million. Coincidentally, that sort of...
We said we could go up, but we would want some concessions. We never put that in writing. It was a small discussion in the meeting of June 22 and in a subsequent phone call conversation I had with one of the Shell people working on the transaction, and dependent upon other financial considerations. So this whole discussion of $200 million was what you would commonly find in a negotiation. There's some to-ing and fro-ing around what you would give. Our offer of $150 million for the business, just the refinery business, was an expression of interest, which we would follow through on.