The next question is on the value of the site. You talked about the value of the site in Montreal East. It seems to me that you've actually said in your statement that a delay in permitting can cause supply disruptions and there are normal permit requests. Is there a better permit process, or what is the length of the permit process for this as a brownfield site? It would have value, I assume, as a site where you're already working, as opposed to permitting a new site. How quickly do you believe you can get the permits?
I guess my next question about that is from the conversion to the terminal. Mr. Godin started to get on this. Do you have an estimate? Presumably you must have said something to your shareholders about what it would cost for just the capital cost to convert to a terminal. Can you share that value?